What's that famous phrase you hear in movies all the time from US administrations..... We don't negotiate with terrorists!
Well considering the last helpful suggestion the yanks had that, Ukraine gives up it's nuclear weapons in return for their guaranteed security, I'd imagine they might play along for appearances, while not letting up for a second.
The US is paying lip service to countries like Italy [about talking to Putin] and I expect they say something else in private to Zelensky and The Ukraine. There will be no peace until Russia packs its bags and goes home and for anyone to say otherwise is leaning toward sadistic Russian politics.
Talks with the Russians are worthless. Unless it’s a discussion for a ceasefire to allow the Russians to pull back beyond Ukraine, The Russian Federation is a dishonest agent that cannot be trusted in any form “Treaty” or “Agreement” that might be borne from talks. They’ll simply use it as a respite to rearm and try again later.
need to include his cronies also
Can’t negotiate with them
Really good news if true.
The Biden administration is privately encouraging Ukraine’s leaders to signal an openness to negotiate with Russia and drop their public refusal to engage in peace talks unless President Vladimir Putin is removed from power, according to people familiar with the discussions.
That feeds into some suspicions I have about their nuclear arsenal. The biggest in the world? Yes. But how many of them actually work?
Based what we have seen of their battlefield armor, airforce and navy, Ukraine has been (at best) fighting an army that has been equipped by the Soviet Union of the 1980s. But more likely we’re talking about the Soviet Union of the mid to late 70s right before Afghanistan and the decade of decline that followed it. In terms of rearming and development, very very little appears to have happened in Russia since 1991.
Nukes are expensive and complex pieces of kit, which I don’t believe they’ve been maintaining. Like the Buran shuttles, they exist but are probably in such a mothballed state that they’d be lucky for them to reach target let alone leave more than just a radioactive hole in some building. I feel (or hope) that the Russians have probably put more effort in maintaining the illusion of a functioning nuclear deterrent in the hope that the fear of it being used is enough to give them the leverage they need…in the hope that they’ll never need to actually show their hand in a MAD situation.
NATO does not need to fight a 3rd world army.
Id say they would test one before using one in anger. Not for a display of force, just to make sure they work!
In fairness though, I'm sure priority is given to their nuclear arsenal as it's important as a deterrent.
So they would have no issues throwing money at it, it's not cheap. But think about it, a culture of kleptomania and corruption.... if you're in charge of say a tank storage area, stealing from the funding, you may get caught if they were needed for a war. If you're stealing funds from the nuclear arsenal and it's needed, sure you're dead either way as it's pretty much Armageddon time!
If you really think that's the case, then NATO would be boots on the ground.
That's not the reality though, the Russians have working nukes.
I would say the only ones that will work are in subs. And we can find them and kill them. Silos you can hide a dude not in a sub. People would cotton on.
Well that's a yank system from the 50's*. Not Russian unless they faked the uniform and backgroud. Actually it's a f***ing stupid yank idea that predates any real recognition of radiation sickness and fallout zones, nevermind the stupidity of a shoulder launch nuke. Even the Russians in the 60's weren't stupid enough to go with that daft an idea and they went with plenty.
Oh and if someone is dreaming of small size and yield nukes there is a minor problem with them in that they eat themselves in a very short time usually >1 year assembled and often a lot less, because their shielding is so thin - the radiation destroys the electronics.
*Davy Crockett weapon system
I think I commented on Russian nukes here before but they have a major flaw in that the plutonium trigger only lasts 20 years tops. They could launch no problem but just thud into the ground making a nuclear mess at best. Since most Russian nukes were built in the soviet era I'd have serious doubts about any of their missiles. there's plenty of articles out there on it
Fat Man yes kinda
It's majority government funded. Most likely they take it over as it has demonstrated its usefulness to the military.
That's because they always discuss it in a vacuum.
The reality, as the Russians know, if that **** goes down, Moscow will be incinerated.
Isn't that one of the weapons in Fallout
I can't help thinking the talk show guys are spoofing when they talk about nukes. Detonating a nuclear weapon and releasing radiation would be a huge 'no no' - it would immediately mark Russia out as a terrorist state, even to its so called allies.
Oh ofc sorry went down a bit of a rabbit hole on history prob wrong thread there were tones of mad ideas from that era nuclear powered bombers the whole nine yards.
I've seen speculation from Russia watchers that a nuclear weapon of any description being detonated would be very unpopular, even in Russia itself. Yes, it would probably thrill the nutcases / headbangers on the talk shows, but they are unhinged and living in a parallel universe.
And in that scenario what happens to starlink. Oh it gets turned off.
Glad the mine rescuers told him to pfo - could imagine the sub half way to exiting. Powering down and Musk asking for money to complete the rescue.
Any doubt about what a POS Musk is have been put beyond doubt in the past few days. Buying a company for $44bn then claiming its losing $4m a day.
Added to his disgusting move of cutting off communication from the Ukrainians even though he has received massive US investment and also received payment from Poland and others to provide the service. Hopefully twitter sinks him and we won't have to listen to his waffling any longer.
Only if you count advantage in numbers and not quality but as evidenced by everything Russian, from its airforce to its grunts, quantity means fcuk all.
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IIRC there was all kinds of crazy nukes during the cold war USA/UK russia. Nuclear grenades, Artillery shells. Mortars. Not sure if the grenades got off paper or that they were more like RPG. I would not volunteer to use one though.
You would see a great explosion for a split second 🤣
From what (little!) I've read they (the "small" ones) would also go bad (!). It's not a case of sticking nuclear weapons forgotten in a silo somewhere and pulling them out of a stockpile like they are chemical explosives or bullets. There's parts of them that need upkeep, monitoring, regular checking, replacement, so would say real/guaranteed to work size of their tactical arsenal would be affected too if you speculate the maintainence is shoddy and money for it was being robbed by corrpution!
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