Just got the kill-sheet in the post today.
One of the six was 2+ (and O-) but the other five were all 3= and either O= or O-. Average weight was 236kg. It's too light and I won't be sending them at that weight again. But still happy enough to have a few gone.
I'll pick out a few for feeding at grass next Sept and try to get them gone before housing. The rain this year has forced my hand a little bit.
Any quotes for bulls? I see the journal is giving €4.80 for r grades. Didn't think they were up at that with bullocks at €4.50.
Sell end of month. How big of Charolais weanling bull will €900 buy? The difference between sale and repurchase I will regard as profit.
What are you going doing with them
Should I increase meal feeding levels to maximise weight gain potential?
Most traditional and Continents breed bullocks will eat 2% of there bodyweight. Those 500kg bullocks will eat 10kgs DM per day. I presume the ration is daily so that will provide about 1.8kgs DM per head per day.
If the be is around 30dm.it shod provide them.enough for two days. If it's above 50%DM it should do three days
2 days I'd say and maybe a little longer with it or so with a well packed good quality bale.
How long feeding should 12 500 kg bullocks get from a bale of silage plus a 25 kg bag of cattle ration?
They are burning up too much energy outside now (especially when it gets cold). On top of this there is very little feeding in the grass when you get into November.
Id imagine so, that and the fact the food you are providing in shed might be more nutritious...my dad used to say around august september the power is gone out of the grass....less sugars Id imagine
of course if they are well fed and have shelter they will do very well outside too........but the more energy they have to devote to maintaining body temp the less goes to weight gain
they can go back in a shed too if this is the case, ie:poor feed, not a dry bed, over crowding, reduced food quality...or being bullied etc
Is it the heat and the dryness that gives the edge to feeding inside?
Anyone get quotes on cow prices lately?
If a feeder puts in cattle in the autumn, it's usually timed for the Christmas trade which will start shortly.
As you say more people put in cattle early to avoid a long feeding period and are ready now to sell by the end of the month for Christmas too.
There's also summer grazers waiting until cattle are seven months on the farm to qualify for disadvantage area payment, I know of a good few extensive farmers (my age) in that position
Very few cattle left on grass at present. Unless they have silage and are getting 5-8kgs of nuts they would do better inside.
Having said that it seems there is substantial numbers in sheds ready to go as well
Was just looking at beef prices on Agriland. Bulls are up 30c/kg. Now usually bulls mean over 24 month. The figures seem to be skewed by C&J meets who paid 4.8/ kg for a consignment of bulls. They were probably assigned the wrong group, but the price was 4.8/ kg for R= which is a good price in the present market.However Kildare and Liffy meats paid similar money for R-bulls
Can't see too many guys out with bags of nuts to heavy cattle outside. Quicksand and lack of daylight, springs to mind. Anyone that was planning on finishing off grass, was making sure they did not see the shed again. There is a pinch in numbers coming.
Grass cattle must be all killed now at this stage.
There won't any rush to rise prices with ground conditions so bad,
what did your cattle weigh after and what was there fatscore..... were they all 3s
Any quotes for next week?
For steers on the grid hearing Kepak 4.55 Liffey 4.50 (but paying 4.55)
That is exactly what I have been doing except I would feed them a little more, 3-4kg to try and get them done faster.
This year I would like to get rid faster so need to bring some to the mart. Wondering what people normally do with the mart, bring them in straight from the parlour or dry them completely, sealing them and all before bringing them in? Do you get rewarded in the mart for drying completely over a couple of weeks and sealing them etc?
Is herdwatch handy then for the inspection?
Most marts have it on the sales docket indicating after each animal the number of moves. Mark it on the card when you buy them
First image is a bought in calf from the spring. Second is a homebred suckler calf. It's on the right hand side under residency count
Herd watch gives that
Is any app on the market able to pull the "residency count" data from the agfood website?
I buy all of my cattle in the mart and some have 2, 3 or 4 residencies. This dictates whether or not I have the option to go back to the mart with them or have to slaughter the animal ie lose QA based on herd 4 movements / 5 residencies . I use herdapp and they don't have it.
It's a pain having to go through AG food to find the residencies of each individual animal as often the back of the card isn't filled in properly.
Does anyone else have this problem?
I paid 195 incl vat, for up to 100 stock
You’d think so but I would’nt hold your breath. They’ll find every excuse under the sun not to raise it.
I think this year a lot of people who would normally house cattle until Christmas before killing them have tried to kill them off grass. This led to the back up over the last couple of weeks. Maybe there will be a bit of a want on them for cattle over the next couple of months.
Back to the pressing issue, any movement on base prices as the week progresses. Surely heavy cattle have to be drying up, with the extra 110k killed so far this year and the last few weeks of big kills. Numbers could tighten quicker than the cartel think
Renewal was about €180 this year. That's for between 150 and 200 head including sucklers. Bit cheaper if there is no breeding stock. There are other options available. Herd app and farm ops.
It cuts down on paperwork, as you are tipping away at it on the phone. When dosing, I would punch in the details as I turn back cattle to their paddock. Spraying I would punch it in, while the sprayer is filling. If you forget to do something that day you pull out the phone on the couch that evening and you have it done in a minute. I find is handy for the breeding season and weighing.
A package that can be accessed easily on the phone makes QA very easy. Most farmers don't have time to be pulling out a laptop or firing up a PC. Quick, easy and very accessable makes you more likely to stay on top of it. Now many merchants and vets will email invoices, perscriptions and feed dockets. It's less hassle to get over the line
How much is herd watch
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