Passing by the Royal Oak, near Bagelalstown this afternoon saw this type 2 charger (x2) opposite Matty's Pub.
Thought it looked rather quaint, 😊 I am sure there are many such sites that would be available for charge points around the country. I see it's on Plugshare, haven't a clue how to use the charger, didn't need to try but it said free on sign. Perhaps only free for parking..
Someone call John Hinde.
I love the busted petrol pumps beside the new looking charger. Shows which one is the future and what's going to be a historical relic soon
Shame they don't know the difference between V and W...
Haha, 22,000V would certainly have some effect on the car 🤣
My main idea wasn't HVDC charging: the use of a coupler pretty much means it'll be AC only anyway, as for safety reasons, DC charging can only be done on uninterrupted cables, and DC charging cables are also a very expensive thing to be providing at every station. The big advantage I see is in the cold-plugging, and making mechanical connection as needed. Don’t forget the cost of electrical cabling when you’re working out how much even a 7 kW charger per parking bay would cost: the bigger the car-park, the more expensive this gets.
The specific example I was thinking of was airport parking. Here, you’ve a thousand or more cars, parked up for at least three or four days, maybe two to three weeks. As you get more EVs on the road, more people would like to have their EVs charged up while they're away on holiday, thus avoiding the need to re-charge on their way home, perhaps. The only way you could offer this service at a reasonable price is by cold-plugging every bay, and then have a robot/dude hook up the cars as needed until they're charged. A computerised booking system would make it easy to figure out where and when each car gets serviced, and the advantage is that you can use mutliple high-power AC charging (22kW) feeds. Ten or twenty such chargers could be used to electrify hundreds of parking spaces.
The same principle applies in a different way to daily park+ride: very few commuters need their car fully recharged to 100% in order to be able to go home (you wouldn’t buy a car with just 200 km range if your commute to work was 180 km!) - drivers who do need a charge top-up may only need 5-10 kWh; but despite only needing the 22kW charger for 30 minutes or so, they actually prevent anyone else getting a charge for the whole day. Being able to attach and detach the same charger to different vehicles is a big advantage, regardless of the charger’s rating.
Seem's expensive for the addressable market of people who live outside the return range of their vehicle and travel to the airport.
I drove my EV to the airport every week for 18 months, it didn't need to be charged to get there and back and that only had a 16kWh usable battery.
Your commuters using the park and ride are far more likely to just not need a charge at the park and ride site.
Or, far more simply - provide 3kW charging at each bay .. Enough for a day-trip replenishment for many cars, and easily enough to charge even the hungriest of the current bunch of EVs over the span of a few days ... heck, 2kW per bay would be plenty in airport carparks unless it's the short-term carpark.
This set up has been common in Finland for decades. Most apartment buildings have a socket for each space so people can connect the engine heaters in their car for the depths of winter. Pretty handy now for EVs I say.
I get what you're saying, but I feel like cabling every spot would be fairly cheap compared to some sort of hot plug system. Reliable mobile robotic systems aren't cheap after all
You could still have a load balancing system which queues the cars, it would just be software controlled instead of a physical robot moving around
For something long term like Dublin Airport, you don't even need 7kW, 2-3kW is probably enough for most people staying a few days
I mean, if nothing else you'd have to tarmac the Blue car park in Dublin Airport for it to work 😁
I disagree, there's a good number of people who travel to Dublin from the other side of Ireland and leave their car for a week. The majority of destinations are available from Dublin and sometimes it doesn't make sense to fly there from another airport
A lot of the hotels around the airport will do a deal where you can stay for one night and leave your car parked for several days while you get the shuttle bus to the airport. I've known a few people who went for that since they had to drive up from Cork and they were going for an early flight
I'm sure many of those people would be very happy to arrive home to a fully charged and preheated car when they're staring into a 2.5 hour drive home
I also think the future for EVs will be smaller battery cars aimed at the budget market. If the mainstream manufacturers don't jump on it soon then the Chinese brands will. Those cars kind of require some level of destination charging to make long trips easier
The current trend amongst chinese battery innovations is small batteries that are capable of charging very quickly.
The numbers currently available show that an on-street AC charger can't pay for itself within 10 years. I don't think adding an expensive robotics system that requires all manufacturers to buy into it (to allow remote charging activation) to airport car parks is going to be any part of a future solution.
Yes I'd love to jump into a fully charged and preheated car after getting in from a late flight.
Dublin Airport is just about on the return trip without recharging limits for my car.
Cold nights and fogged up windows make it even tougher.
A very low power AC socket would be really appreciated.
I could drive home in a warm car at full motorway speeds with no range anxiety.
The solution already existed at quickpark (now closed) where you booked a premium parking space and left charging card on seat. Car would be recharged near return date and moved to express collection point.
There is big money to be made and at Dublin airport many airport own vehicles including plane movers are 100% electric.
Start off with 20 premium spots and increase based on demand. Already the ferries charge a premium to book the EV charger.
I do agree the financials for profit making on AC chargers do look problematic if you are not billing crazy prices or not getting other income such as hotels a few of which still offer free charging.
I heard a comment from easygo that in street AC chargers all need a separate esb supply and esb meter which makes them crazy expensive as esb networks are the only ones who can run power lines under public footpaths. The monthly meter cost alone would make these unviable in scale particularly if chargepoint is not in daily use.
100% agree, start with providing charging at a few spots and offer a booking ahead service for extra cost, then see how it goes from there
I suspect that for a private car park the cabling can be done by any electrician, and would be much cheaper than paying ESBN rates. So AC chargers might not be as dubious a prospect
I also suspect that the only way to make money on AC is to go big. Make a charging site so big and well known that everyone goes there and it gets constant turnover
The 10x AC chargers in Pavilions, Swords always seem to be at least 50% in use. Would love to see some stats on that site
Same old nissan
Abject crap that can't cool/heat itself and cant use CCS
Got my Tesla cable this morning, nearest I'll ever get to having a Tesla.
LOL, you never know. If you had told me today 6 years ago that I was about to buy a Hyundai. A brand new one at that. I would have laughed. Or that I would ever own a Tesla. I have just ordered my 3rd one.
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€79,950
80kw DC max charging....for a 90kWh battery!!
Maxus are imported via a distributer (Harris Group). Personally I'd never buy a car that doesnt have direct manufacturer support in the country as warranty claims can get messy, especially if the distributer decides to cease importing vehicles or has their import licence revoked.
Still I think we are finally going to see more of the Chinese brands making inroads here.
For €50k I could see the attraction, but for €80k? Not a hope.
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Whats a LAUNCH EVENT CONTRIBUTION, ???????
I prefer not to contribute,
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-DELIVERY @ 1000 + VAT
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Never heard anything about those before, what's the opinion?
Same tow rating as a Model Y, i4, EV6 is a bit disappointing
€80K is crazy for something that manages to make the SsangYong Rodius look pretty.
€60K approx in Germany, Looks like Harris is really loading it on. I hope their left with a yard full of them
One day my man, if that’s what you want. Remember, Tesla are just another car. Great tech, great efficiency I know 😃 but it’s about what you like and you want in a car.
I remember when Tesla first launched the Irish site. I went on and spec’s my “lotto” car. A white Model S Performance with the 21” wheels and FSD. €206,000!!!!
Back then I didn’t think I’d be on my third one in the space of 2 years 🤣
Back then when it was just the “motors” forum, it was a big shock for you to be buying a Hyundai!
Id3 would do me nicely 😎
Ioniq 5 is where I’d be if I wasn’t in a Tesla I think.
Just don't like the look of them tbh. I'm up to my eyes in a crappy PCP deal atm I need to get very close to the settlement figure (sept 24) and make a decision then.
