If ration stays above 400/ton either the price of stores needs to half or lads will need over 6/kg+ efore they will finish them. The forward stores bought over the last few weeks will need the mid/high 5's to break even in the NY and I think it's unlikely.
Talking to a lads that finishes U16 month Friesian bulls and if he dose not get a price indication before they go on ad-lib they are going to be taken off the 2kgs and put out to grass in April.
Looking at finishing costs of 4-6/ day is really gambling territory. It would be no problem to have 30k tied up in finishing costs on 60-70 cattle before they got hung.
any prices for next week
With the weak sterling I wonder will we see prices breaking a 5 a kilo next May
Exactly, and unfortunately it’s the lads selling like that in the marts that are giving the factories the opportunity to drag down the factory prices and leave us all without a margin.
In May/June this year yes there was AA cattle in the 550 kg brackets as well as continental cattle that were sold through the mart that made more than factory price but since then only the odd few that made more.
And often 200+, I have seen finished cattle making 300 less in the mart, especially those over thirty month very heavy cattle. What I am often amazed about is the amount of QA cattle that go through the mart that are slaughter fit
Finished Cull cows at pinch points in the year, is the only example I have seen
Fully agree,often did the factory maths after seeing some finished animals after going though the ring and reckon alot of them would of hung up worth €100+ more
I very seldom see finished cattle make more in the mart than in the factory.
Carnew mart and let JK and the KCC and north boys fight over them,
Have some nice store Chx bullocks to sell,born April/May 21' would be around 450-500 kg. Were bought in Spring coming from a place where they got a bad do. Not bad for grass so would it be better trade wise to keep them till Marts get smaller into December?.....or show in next few weeks?. Will start building them up to 2kg of beef nuts over next few weeks to warm them up before sale.
Are factories penalising for under weight carcass at the moment? If so what is the limit and what is the penalty?
Got 4.55 for a load of fr bullocks on the grid.
If I can get the feed barriers on the new shed sorted this week, I’ll separate out the next 5-6 to go in the coming days and feed them for 6 weeks in there.
I’ve never finished cattle before so it’ll be interesting to see how this next bunch go after getting meal compared to the ones going Thurs
you should probable have fed them 2-3 kgs for 5-6 weeks. It fleshes them up on the inside and on the ribs
Thanks. Will try record another one tomorrow but it’ll have to be between showers. Weather is brutal at the moment. Another reason I’m happy to move on a few of those cattle. 20 in the shed now and it’s enough in old cubicles when you’re feeding them bales in a round feeder out in the yard
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Just agreed 4.65 flat for six HE heifers. They're going this Thursday.
They should average 250kg on the hook based on weighing them a few weeks ago and them gaining 1kg/day since then. Probably a little light but they're fleshy enough for animals that got no meal. I need to lighten the load a bit in the shed, so happy enough to leave them off at that.
AA Bullocks to dawn today 455+20c breed bonus
I honestly don't know as I do bullocks only and none of my cattle will be Us!
I believe hacketstown is good for grading but I have no experience there.
Cheers kk.man. where would be best for killing u grade hefier in South East and a few under 16 bulls. First time finishing so bit green.
Would that translate to around 4.60-4.70 for heifers?
I heard 4.50 for bullocks
Any quotes this week
They will go straight onto ad-lib to be finished within 150 days. They will have been bought by specialist feeders who have contracts with the processors I imagine
I suspect that many of these bulls were in the rushes for a while. At 500 kgs if March April born the have an ADG of 2.25 kgs/ day which is highly unusual. If they gain 2 kgs per day over the next 120 days they will be 750@ slaughter. 60% k/o 450kg carcass weight. Feeders will need a price of 6/kg to make money on them IMO.
In a mart during the week seen 500 kg charolais bulls born March April 2022 sold €1700. They were exceptional stock. They had great weight for their age. Would be difficult stock to be buying because they must be following a high ad-lib meal feeding regime to have these achievements and would surely loose condition if this isn't continued.
They're all fit to go now. I'll let them off i'd say and try replace them cheaper on the other end. The price of stores aren't falling in line with the price in factories so there's a bit of a squeeze on.
Might not be worth your while if you factor in silage and feeding in shorter colder days.
How far off ready are they?
In exactly the same boat. Quoted 4.55 as well. Can wait till end Nov, but they'll have to come in this weekend, which is the only thing making me wonder was I right to hold them.
Any quotes for this week? I booked in 10 to go this week 2 weeks ago. Got a call this evening that 4.55 was the price. Debating whether to let them go now or wait for a potential upturn with the world cup coming up. All dates ok until 1st December bar 1.
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