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Buy a 3 phase 32a cable. It will stay with you forever and all future cars.
You will never need a new one unless it breaks.
You’ll get 7kw at home, 11kw or 22kw out and about in public chargers once your car can do it.
Absolutely no need to be buying 2 different cables IMO.
I did not realise that 3 phase had additional wires but of course it is obvious - Now they both use a Type 2 connector so I presume that when operating in a single phase only one of the connections is live ( and another neutral) and all the others are not used.
The pensions aren’t what you think they are, 9% of salary.
As mentioned it's complicated.
First you need a car say 11kW capable. You also need a ChargePoint 11kW or 22kW capable which some are not. Thirdly you need a 3 phase cable between car and charger.
For home use ideally you would use a different cable or tethered cable as single phase 7kW is lighter, and you can have other cable dry and ready to go in car at all times.
If you buy a max 11kW cable often at home it will only work at 3 or 4kW on a home 7kW charge point.
If you buy a max 22kW cable it will work at full 7kW at home but it's heavier and more expensive than 11kW and 7kW Max cables.
Some/most cars come with supplied cables. Sometimes manufacturers supply the wrong/cheaper/ non ideal cable by accident or deliberately to save a few quid.
The ideally public charging cable is extra long 5 metre or 8 metre length as sometimes the parking spaces next to the charger are blocked but you can park nearby and run a cable safely to the charger. This can be very useful and save you having to have a plan b and go elsewhere.
Say I got a 3 phase cable would that still work and draw 7 kWh from my home chargepoint
Depends.
If its a 3-phase 16A cable, no... it will just charge at 3.6kW at home (230V x 16A)= 3680W
This is because you have single phase at home so you only get 16A max to the car but on a 3 phase charge point you get 16A x 3 = 11kW.
If its a 3-phase 32A cable then you will get 7kW as your single phase at home will be able to pull the full 32A from one phase and hence get 7kW (230V x 32A)=7360W.
Just bear in mind you won't get 22kW from those public 22kW charge points as all cars are limited by their onboard chargers which are typically 7kW or 11kW. Some exceptions to it (some Tesla's, Zoe) but the vast majority go to 11kW max on AC regardless of cables.
You still want to get a 3-phase 32A cable though as that gives you max charge rate in all situations.
Say I got a 3 phase cable would that still work and draw 7 kWh from my home chargepoint, PS I don't have an id3 unfortunately I took the cowards route and bought a phev, I'm just getting info for when I change to a full EV.
No a 3 phase cable has additional wires to carry additional phases, what you are referring to is cable weight / area
Is it not just a 6 sq cable as opposed to a 2.5 sq cable rather than a 3ph vs a 1ph
VW have provided a few types of cables so it depends on what you got. You’ll need to check the markings on the cable. It needs to be 3-phase to get the 11kW on that charge point.
Always be careful with this advice, a number of the ESB 50kW DC chargers are constrained by a site limit. By plugging into the AC and pulling 11kW you can reduce the available charge power for the DC car resulting in you both staying longer.
Just to add to this, you will need a 3 phase cable for this if I’m not mistaken?
I know I’ve had a 3 phase/22kw/32a cable from the start a few years now so not sure if you’ll get 11kw on the standard 16a cable.
Thanks for that, would you need a different cable from the one supplied or would it's own do?
I believe the ID.3 charges at 11kW on AC, so if the charger is an AC22 the ID.3 will be able to take 11kW from it.
most modern EV’s now can charge at 11kW.
older Tesla’s & Renault Zoe’s can take the full 22kW on AC.
the first batch of Toyota Bz4Xr3izžiïį’s that arrive here soon can only charge at 6.6kW though because Toyota are light years ahead of the competition with electrification of vehicles….
Using the 22kw socket on a public charger on a modern EV, say an I.D3, is 7Kw/h the fastest speed it will charge at? Assuming optimal battery condition of charge etc.
They do. However they will nearly always have 1 CCS and 1 Chademo plug.
This isn't really great as the majority of new cars now are CCS and so there'll normally be a wait to get a charge.
I've seen 3 CCS cars regularly wait at the local 50kw charger beside me.
do the newer chargers allow 2 cars to charge at one on the fast charger scenario.
Anyone going to the Electric Vehicle Summit in the RDS on Nov 9th?
Tickets a snip at €350 plus vat.
I was unaware of this, but tried to start the charging today whilst Kia was charging (didn’t know only one car could charge etc) and it didn’t let me charge or stop the Kia charging
That's the ESB for ya. More important to beef up their pensions than to give public service. Anyway I shouldn't be telling you this, but is you rock up in your Leaf and plug it in, it will knock the other car off and you will be fast charging.
Your leaf might stop the kia charging, if you plugged in and started, it was a "feature" on some units.
I rarely use the public network but Fook me, what a load of sh1te not allowing 2 cars at once on the fast charge.
No,
only 1 car can DC charge at the same time on this unit. You can however use the slower AC while waiting for the Kia to finish.
Hello. If a Kia is already charging at this unit (attached) . And I rock up in my leaf to use Chademo. Can both of us charge at same time?
Re FASTER Project and Louth County Council:
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"marking spots with green paint is effective"
Like the DC chargers on Sir John Rogerson's Quay. I emailed them to ask why they couldn't have moved them further down the quay ie a dedicated charging area. Also why was the ground not painted green (I went down to charge and all 3 spots were taken by diesel SUV's).
They said they were doing it "next week". Weeks later and it still wasn't done.
2 hour talk on ROI and border future charging. Organised by "faster" which has money for chargers in border counties.
ESB e cars
ESB networks
Easygo
Irish ev owners association
Journalist
Others.
Louth co co who is planning to roll out chargers in all border counties on ROI side of border. I have only listened to half of it.
The faster/Louth only intends using council owned sites with pay to use by credit card, sites are shortlisted and mentioned on e-tenders (I don't know where). They said they are forbidden from using petrol stations etc. They also said they are not looking at profit but commutes or routes not catered for by existing sites.
Easygo may introduce ICE sensors in front of chargers to update the app to say charger free but parking spot blocked. This could be fed to parking warden. I know ionity have parking sensors in the likes of cashel, but data is not shared with users. ESB ecars mentioned parking enforcement based on car registration and cctv but said it was too expensive. Marking spots with green paint is effective.
Touch to pay by card mentioned in future but too difficult for smaller AC chargers, particularly as a retrofit.
ESB overstay fee is EVERY 45 minutes so 8 euro every 45 minutes. They said per minute billing had technical issues. (easygo used to do this but switched to 60 minute fixed overstay fee. )
I suspect my insurance would not cover an electrical fault unless it was a direct hit with paint damage etc. In that case having it plugged in or not won't make any difference. Cars can be extensively be damaged by a lightning strike if you're unlucky. Happened to a friend of mine in Finland where a direct lightning hit wrote off their A1 with extensive damage to ECUs etc. They had actually bodywork damage as well proving that is was indeed a direct strike of lightning.
That's it. I'll sell my motorcycles next and will move to a padded cell now that I'm "like that". ;-)
Sound like one of those risk an electrical engineer would roll their eyes at. More chance you get struck going out to unplug it.
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