It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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She did point out that he was born in the US.
I stand corrected. I had seen a shorter version earlier where it didn't show her doing that.
I think Sunak would be very good for relations with Ireland and the Protocol. Yes, he was a Brexiteer but with a small 'b' and he has little in common with all the ideological zealot types on the right wing of the party.
That question has nothing got to do with your statement.
You claimed Johnson was letting Sunak win as part of some smart plan that showed Johnsons intelligence.
No I didn't say it showed any "intelligence", just that he might not be that thick that he doesn't realise that it is a sh1tshow at the minute over there and might decide to hang tight for a few months rather than go into a contested election. If Sunak beat him on MP votes but lost against him in a vote to the members then he'd have Sunak waiting in the wings as an option for any other MPs wanting to oust him. Whereas he could leave himself hiding in the long grass for whenever the sh1t hits the fan for Sunak.
(btw, I raised the idea of the possibility of the eejits returning BoJo on here before Truss resigned)
And was a US citizen until 2016. Apparently the IRS went after him for some capital gains which leads me to believe he'd been filing US taxes up until that point, or at least was liable for them.
Probably only gave it up when he became Foreign Secretary in the same year. He likely wouldn't have been able to be fully-briefed on intelligence from MI6 when holding a foreign passport. SIS only allowed dual-nationals to work for them from last year, and top-level security clearance still likely means renouncing your non-British nationality.
Nice. So until 2016 and the Brexit referendum, the one-time mayor of London and MP Boris Johnson was a US citizen.
Remind me, what was it that upset that pig of a caller to LBC? Globalism?
Steve bakers interview on sky this morning made it clear that if the ERG doesn't see the protocol bill making progress they will go after whoever is elected
I think Sunakis is just the best of a very bad bunch. As Chancellor his response to the cost of living crises was poor, it didn't go down well. He squandered the goodwill the furlough scheme had brought him. in the end 44% thought he was doing a bad job and only 22% thought he was doing well.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/rishi-sunak-approval-rating
Baker is a strange individual. Hinted recently that he was prepared to back a deal with deal with the EU but is now coming out will pro-DUP and anti-EU rhetoric. A key point is though that Sunak would be PM : the ERG would be playing a very dangerous game by trying to go against government policy on the issue. Sunak is hardly going to settle for a situation where he is behoved to the ERG on all aspects of government policy - he will think 'let them threaten as much as they like' (if they try and force a general election, many of them will be out of a job within weeks).
Whereas he could leave himself hiding in the long grass for whenever the sh1t hits the fan for Sunak.
I'm not sure what you mean by the 'sh!t hitting the fan for Sunak' but there's no way the party is going to oust him on the basis of 'stormy political weather', only if he fcuks up bigtime himself, in the Truss manner. And given the nature of the guy that seems very unlikely...
He is just trying to make Boris potential loss look like a victory.
You're deluded.
Your obsession with BoJo seems a bit weird.
There are serious economic clouds on the horizon for the UK. Cost of living, strikes etc. They seem to be constantly imploding over there and only ever seem to pick complete gobsh1tes. I can easily see turmoil continuing over the next six months. The rats start jumping the ship and they try to have another clearout.
But that's going to happen no matter who is PM. And of course there will be incoming fire from Boris loyalists like Dorries. But unless the party as a whole has completely lost its mind they must see that changing leader AGAIN before a GE can only make things worse.
I will just leave this here for the Tory followers.
I would go with the thesis that they have indeed lost their collective minds. Or at least become detached from reality and the average person. I wouldn't put anything past the fu^kwits at this stage. They won't go for a GE if at all possible as they will be decimated.
It would be easier to get someone out if there is an heir apparent waiting in the shadows.
Very very long article in The Times detailing some of the events that were happening in the background last week in the Truss team in particular but also some Johnson/Sunak stuff. Should be readable without subscription.
Is the tide going out on Boris Johnson’s comeback? | News | The Sunday Times (thetimes.co.uk)
Some nice details - I particular liked a Truss aide lamenting about the cost of the triple lock pledge needed to keep The Express onside "That one front page cost us £5 billion, it would have been cheaper to just buy the newspaper.”
I think brexit is enough of an example that enough of the people in the conservatives and in the UK have lost sense of reason because even after the UK have left the EU, there are some who on camera will say that their business has suffered since they left but they’d still vote to leave even after all of it. It’s kind of hard to break through that logic.
Well Truss may have won the backing of party membership but she was endorsed by less than one third of the parliamentary party, many of whom are indeed borderline certifiable. But the bulk of the party aren't like that; they are crafty, cynical operators focused above all on retaining their own seats which is why, whatever about the relative merits of Johnson versus Sunak, they can see once they've gone with Sunak this time they have to stick with him.
How would any serious world leader outside of a desperate or corrupt one do a deal with a Boris led UK?
Well if they had crafty operators, you'd think one of them would make it to the top. To me "crafty" means a bit smart coupled with some sneakiness. I think they have loads with the latter but not so many with the former. In any large group there has to be some who are smart, but they aren't making it to the top. Or they are being drowned out, or else are absorbing the craziness by osmosis.
I mean your man Kwarteng had a stellar CV on paper. Great academic credentials which one would think would have helped him somewhat in that role in terms of understanding the bigger picture. But he seemed to have just lost the plot.
From what we have seen, almost any person would have to be a better choice than BoJo. I'm not saying he is a good choice. I just made the point that with all the imploding, it might happen that anyone who gets it might get sacrificed and forced out later.....I don't think anyone would have went with only 44 days or whatever for Truss.
Maybe a new twist
About as 'verified' as this I'd say
There does seem to be increasing confidence among broadcasters that Johnson has the 100
Are they just trying to gin up some interest in a race that is all over by the shouting?
Whoever takes the job is guaranteed to be out of No 10 within two years, and also out of the leadership position at the same time as they take the blame for the losses in the next general election. Maybe letting Johnson take that fall, as it's largely his doing the state of the party, and still have Sunak untarnished to then rebuild the party to come back after one term in opposition is the plan.
Doubt they have that much fore thought though.
Why would 'they' have made it so hard for Johnson to get into the race if that was the 'plan'?
Dunno, just trying to figure out some sense to the crazy.
I do know it's totally pointless.
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