I'm honestly surprised anyone would support Liverpool against City. I grew up hating United as they were dominant for 20 years. But they were respected. After all that hatred for united ingrained in me, I'd happily shout for them against City.
I totally get why people would shout against Liverpool. Like all of us, I know a colossal amount of Liverpool fans and some of them are the soundest, most fair and knowledgeable fans out there.But, just my totally subjective opinion, they also have an awful lot of downright insufferable fans - who've been particularly hard to bear in recent years.
But, there's no way I could ever root for the likes of Man City: just basically the PR wing of an oil state.
As bad and all as Liverpool are - and they are bad - City, and what they represent - disgust me. It reminds me a bit of that quote from Churchill regarding his alliance with Stalin in WW2:
"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
Really enjoyed the Roddy Collins episode. Hilarious stuff can't wait for the book.
To say that Liverpool have "uniquely insufferable fans" is just bollox. Every club has "an awful lot of downright insufferable fans". The same thing would of been said about Man Utd during the Fergie years - ABUs.
To be fair I don't support man united or Liverpool and I can say both sets of fans have their moments but Liverpool fans in my experience have the bigger potential to be absolutey insufferable to listen to. United fans tend to be rooted when their team does bad whereas pool fans still mouth of. Don't get me started on the "this means more" cringefest.
"This means more" was PR bullshit from the club, nothing to do with the supporters.
Wasn't even the club - "This Means More" was the New Balance shirt campaign.
As for this idea in a post above that 'this one group of fans does this thing, but this other group does this thing' -- "United fans tend to be rooted when their team does bad whereas pool fans still mouth off"... fans are just people. The idea that two lads who have everything in life in common, except the name of the team they follow, will somehow have these unique behaviours as a result is kind of insane. Like, it's obviously not true. If the team you follow (from afar especially, in terms of irish EPL fans) is that much of an influence on who you are as a person, then something is quite wrong... but I daresay those people are very very few and far between. Most people are just people, with the same emotional responses and behaviours as the other people around them, regardless of a shirts colour.
Liverpool fans are just the worst. So, so, mawkish. Some of the shot some lads around the area of Dublin I live in have done to show how much they support Liverpool...Jesus.
I think you are being very dismissive of lived experiences of posters that have encountered fans of various clubs.
Used to work with a lad who thought Munich jokes were the funniest thing ever 🙄
Great anecdote, thanks for sharing.
Some of Roddy's hilarious anecdotes weren't quite as hilarious as he thought they were.
Lived experiences are fine, as long as you recognise that it is a small subjective experience, that is no real reflection of a whole fanbase. I'm sure everyone has met a particularly bad group of all sorts of different fans, but to suggest this is how all fans of that club behave - regardless who they are, or where they're from - is obviously silly. All one can really say is 'this one time i met these few tossers who happened to follow this club'.
It's also important to recognise one's own biases. If someone doesn't like a particular club, they're more likely to a) be more annoyed by anything that club/those fans do, and b) notice anything those specific fans do while not noticing the exact same things by fans of other clubs.
The objective truth is that of all the things that impact who you are, and how you behave, the team you watch play football (especially as a foreign fan) is very very far down the list.
I think Roddy should replace Richie as the host of “the players chair”
I'll give his book a go out of curiosity but I don't 't find him anywhere near as funny as he's made out to be
That Herschel Walker stuff sounds grim.
Only in America
I'd put his funny stories in the same category as Brian Kerr's bank holiday Friday tubing story
The most painful audiobed. Pure agony when I'm cycling and can't fast forward it.
So would I....hilarious!
Fûcking ridiculous from Ken today. He spent five minutes at the start of Monday’s show laughing at Nunez.
Last night Nunez scores the winner for Liverpool and by all accounts was excellent, yet Ken doesn’t even mention him today! Apparently Liverpool’s win was all thanks to Allison.
Obviously he’s decided on the narrative he wants and nothing is going to be allowed affect it.
Huh? Have you not listened to the full show?
Ken wouldn't shut up about him today!
Stevie G is gone! Ken was right about that
Ha ha, fair enough. I was giving my hot take on the report on sport but it was a pretty good conversation later on with Fanning and Brewin
I only got around to listening it to this morning. I was cringing at his “jokes” after ten minutes. Sounds like he was recycling a load of material from Only Fools and Horses.
I exited at the start of the Ronaldo Messi chat. I couldn't be more bored of such a topic.
Did the guy being interviewed bring anything new or interesting to the already well beaten topic?
I haven't finished it yet but he had some interesting stories about them that I hadn't heard before. The conversation was very much not a "Messi vs Ronaldo" debate. Certainly not up to the point that I've listened so far.
Very interesting chat I thought. More about telling stories of each than direct comparison. Ronaldo chasing awards and records and Messi chasing money was a common theme.
mbappe was nearly as discussed as much as Messi and Ron as well
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