It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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Unfortunately, this is the basic fact of the matter. Lies not only told by the Tories, but by Labour too.
Some people may consider Corbyn "unelectable", I can't say how a government under him would have gone myself, but would it really have been as bad as the one that we've seen under Bojo and Truss?
I have a hard time envisioning that.
The lies they told about Corbyn will be all that people ever remember.
Exactly
May being shte obviously helped but people play down how good a campaigner he was.
He understood the power of silly slogans better than any Labour leader since Blair. People remembered and oft repeated "for the many not the few" "make June the end of May" and "ooooooh Jeremy Corbyn"
He sugar coated his more serious policy with stuff like reinstating George's day as a holiday and getting involved with protecting football for the average fan. That stuff actually works really well.
I think you over estimate how unelectable he was. Did you see the 2017 election? He was a piss hair in several constituencies from power.
Let's see how that plays out after the next GE. I mean, nearly 1 in 5 still think the Tories are the answer.
There is no economic miracle going to pull them out of this tailspin. This is their Brexit dream and fanatical economic fantasies coming home to roost. This was as inevitable as nightq follows day when they decided to ride the populist bandwagon. This collapse is baked into the decisions they already made.
If there were any sound economic fundamentals a policy of tax cuts would not have crashed the bond market.
If you take the whole queen's funeral and farewell coffin tour into account Truss had about 7 days of actual government to produce this omnishambles.
Impressive.
Yes, and that is even how it was framed by the right wing / far right press. 'Them and us' and an opportunity to get one over on the others : the leftie woke liberal traitor crowd who hate Britain and who love immigrants.
So what's the bets that Hunt will calm everything down and all will be ok in a week or so? He is de facto PM now anyway.
The worst possible scenario is that the ship turns around and everyone is happy again, so the Tories go on as if nothing has happened.
I did laugh at the fact that the boss sacked the worker for doing exactly what the boss wanted him to do.
Many of the people that voted for the tories did so as the tories said they would only hurt the "other" people, just because they were fooled by the tories who ended up hurting everyone doesn't make their voting for them and reasons for doing so excusable
I can't see how the government can function with a car crash PM. Even if Hunt was doing a somewhat improved job as Chancellor, you'd still have the issue of the train wreck that is Truss running the country (and someone who is deeply unpopular and not trusted by anyone).
"brobdingnagian"
I learned a new word today, thank you 😁
Corbyn was as much a disaster for the UK as Farage, Rees Mogg, Johnson, Truss etc. Utterly hopeless leadership when it was needed, caught up in ideology.
I think you underestimate the brobdingnagian volume of ammunition he provided them with.
I think you underestimate how much of the establishment were against him, and then there were the Israelis.
Sure but the public knew what they were. Cameron and Osborne were bent on stripping the state for their one percenter pals, May was obsessed with her hostile environment and dementia tax policies and Johnson just wanted to sit there and write his Shakespeare book. Now, we have Truss back to denuding the state once again.
Interesting that you seem to blame the victims of the tories ,often described as con men,snake oil salesmen etc on many of these threads. (I agree with those opinions btw)
I think people underestimate how un-electable Corbyn was, even after they think they've underestimated.
On brexit, he was a deer in headlights from the start of his leadership to its death.
Exactly. It's the people damn it.
True, but the country was in Brexit Fever the last time in 2019, and the Tories were the only ones who seemed to offer a clear policy on that. It wasn't a policy I agreed with, but it seemed to resonate with voters.
They keep mentioning this "mandate from the people" rubbish which is utter nonsense. In that 3 years since the 2019 election they've totally trashed the public's confidence. No way would they be voted back in now.
The people elected this toxic shower three times.
...and the figure comes from a forecast made before the war in Ukraine started.
The British government is embarrassing, not the people.
It had already fallen by 3.8% from Q2 2016 to Q4 2019 so methinks 4% is wishful thinking.
And Brexit hasn't been done yet. The UK still hasn't applied full import controls so things will get a little worse.
And you also have to factor in the fall in Sterling. Food and fuel are imported so affects everyone directly or nearly directly.
When was it not?
Yes.
The Brits never quite grasped the rules. Exceptionalism only works if your the biggest dog on the block.
It's how the common market works.
Want full access follow the rules.
It's been patently obvious for most of a decade now.
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