Defamation case:
Ian Bailey: "I am not a violent man; this was not a premeditated attack. All the violence between us occurred with drink. I did not intend to hurt her."
The "violence between us".
There was no violence between them. Bailey was the violent one
"When we both drink, violence occurs":Ian Bailey
Violence does not occur. Bailey trying to spin his way out of responsibility
"she pulled the crutch towards her … she started pulling the crutch. I was trying to get it back and she was pulling it and I let go, it struck her.": Ian Bailey woman beater
"He grabbed my foot and started nutting my boot": Brendan Grace comedian
It's a bit hard to imagine a woman considering sex with a stranger in the early morning or after a phone call around midnight with her husband.
I don’t think Sophie went out with any sexual intent. I was talking about her attacker.
If the motive was really sexual, he would have raped her.
The nature how she was killed would lead to suggest that the killer was by far way stronger than her and would have been able to rape her with ease before the killing.
However it's proven that nothing sexual happened.
I would also tend to believe ( meaning not certain) that Sophie didn't have any consensual intercourse during her whole trip to Ireland.
Not necessarily.
Let's hypothesise about the following
Our man is drunk and horny, he goes to the house looking for the ride, he gets rejected, murders our victim in a rage, but has no interest in having sex with the victim at that point, simply because she is at least unconscious, possibly dead.
Just because he went there looking for sex it doesn't mean he would have sex on any circumstances.
You’ve got a very active imagination and a high opinion of your own intelligence Jim.
People still trying to fit Bailey to the crime..
The Gards failed to physically link him to the crime scene (though not for the lack of trying..)
And most posts here recently, are trying to stitch him up as fitting the profile of the murder psychologically..
Christ, will he ever catch a break....
Biggest break he ever caught was the state pathologist not being able to be at the scene for over 28 hours and not having an assistant that could have covered his absence.
This thread is a surprise!
Should check boards more
About right. And have you seen his carry on on twitter in recent months?
Ex Bailey supporter here, old account, saw the light. Judge all you want, I've seen the MS harrasment of a certain mutual acquaintance.
As you were 😊
Gwan outa dat u bin here all along.
Speak English or at least Gaeilge woman 😂
I'm out of the entire thing. Not getting into it here but saw baileys true colours and not ashamed to admit I was wrong.
Anything else?
Who or what is MS harassment?
It wasn't directed at you.
I`ll just leave you two to get jiggy with it so.
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Welcome back scoobs .you have as much nerve as Bailey. He trained you well in all those midnight video chats. I had a premonition you might be back
Who is MS?
Jig along now 😊
Sorry what? Pls explain what you mean in your first paragraph?
I'm back because I stumbled across this thread, take it or leave it or prove your opinion definitively.
Like I said, no longer a Bailey supporter, quite the opposite after unfortunate personal dealings.
Stop playing games scoobs.who is MS?
As a former Bailey supporter, your u-turn is interesting...
Were you running a Facebook page demanding justice for Bailey at one time even...??
Anyway, you cite personal dealings that swayed your opinion?
Please share this experience, what did you witness?
Bailey is a paedophile, for a start.
No, it wasn't me running the campaign.
It took me longer to realise everything people said about him was true because I'd been personally manipulated by him, but I tried to remain objective concerning the murder of Sophie. I still don't know as the physical evidence isn't there but he's sure got the character that fits.
@SoulWriter
Did you say I have nerve? You were fully responsible for the old thread closing were you not??
Stalking and harassing and arguing with people from what I saw.
Play nicely. I'm not playing games. You know who MS is
It's possible. However I would still consider that a hike for around 1 hour at night is quite an accomplishment in a drunk stage.
Suppose Bailey was horny that night and Jules didn't want sex with him that night, how come he considered Sophie? I would imply that Bailey must have met Sophie a couple of days before, Bailey misinterpreted Sophie's behavior ( it does happen...), then thought he could have casual sex with her, which again came to his mind that night, after a couple of drinks.
@flanna01
My U-turn happened at the beginning of the year, I've stayed away from it all and blocked Bailey since.
This entire case is toxic, Bailey is toxic, he might be a murderer he might not but he's dark either way.
And yeah he said some stuff that I could write a book with lol, none of which would stand up in court because he knows how to say enough to raise suspicion but not enough to be evidence.
Yes, exactly. The content of baileys diaries is what caused myself and many others to realise what a disgusting person Bailey is.
It's a pretty badly written book otherwise but he did expose things others hadn't.
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I was not harassing just called you on your bs and several account s. And since you think that why restart by quoting me or responding to me.you can post without quoting me.
I don't know who MS is .no Idea who or what you're on about.
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He had two or three pints two whiskey, drank the second in one go.he took home one or two pints
A big man and heavy drinker like IB would not be very drunk on that.
There is plenty evidence he and jules were investigating before they should have known. All can't be wrong.
He also bullied one of jules daughters. An absolute thug.
As far as I know we don't know how many drinks he had, and in what condition he was in. I find it odd that the police never established how much he had to drink that night, or how much he was really used to drinking - as far as I know. Not that it would prove anything but it would narrow the field a bit. Only thing we do know is that Jules was driving and if he went to Sophie's later on that night, he didn't drive.
He had large times that night unaccounted for, not having an alibi, but so did a lot of others that night.
He was known to take longer hikes at night time and would have found Sophie's house at night with ease.
He's been absent from the bedroom for that night.
He had the studio to undress, clean himself up and change clothes.
He was burning something behind the studio for whatever reason.
What is more likely or less likely is only down to each of everyone's speculation.
Nobody can prove things either way, no evidence, DNA, fiber traces or fingerprints of him were ever found at the scene of the murder. He did volunteer his DNA to the police, but this could also have been a gamble, knowing that the police were incompetent, or in the case of competence they would have found him anyway and convicted him in a court of law. So volunteering DNA doesn't prove anything in including or excluding him as a suspect either way, in my opinion.
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