highly unusual for the Russian's to lie... the clip must be doctored
Air defenses should be a priority but like that Ukraine is a large country you can protect some areas but no guarantees yon can stop mass missle attacks like what we saw today,add the fact they can attack from Crimea,the blacksea , Belarus and Moldova makes it even harder to stop attacks
New footage of the Kerch Bridge. The regime has surely been lying through their teeth in claiming that the railway and the road are running as normal again.
Why would he have "had to do it"? If Russia had out of the ash of the fall of the Soviet Union become more of a "European" state, a democracy, with free trade, equality etc and was run by the Scandi mindset. It would have boomed massively. With her young demographics of the time it could well have become a mini China in trade and industry. It could have retained its armed forces, but eased right back on this near medieval imperial mindset. It could have kept the US at a distance as they outsourced manufacturing and buggered their working class. Nobody will want to fight a nation you do good business with and vice versa.
Instead Russia, and it has to be said; too many Russians, are wedded to the idea of an imperial feudal society and culture and military mindset(which IMHO isn't fascist, but looks very like it, as would most pre early modern European societies look to us today) and one that goes centuries back. Even under Communism which tried to drag them out of that mindset and actually did bring Russia into the modern world and gave ordinary Russians and others, barely out of serfdom a much better life, they still clung to the czar/premier, boyars/governors mindset. Stalin's rule being the clearest example of it. When Communism fell and they felt the chaos of that they went right back to czar putin and his boyar oligarchs. Now it could be argued that to keep such a huge nation, well actually an empire, together this is one of the "better" mechanisms to do it, but it doesn't do much for the average Russian. Yeah they're quite understandably grateful that putin pulled them out of an even bigger chaos and their lives and Russia is or was in a far better state than in the 1990s, but they're back to the old ways. It's a default cultural position. Not unlike ours in Ireland where in a lesser example we like to vote parochially and vote in people just because their forefathers were politicians, or because they belong to a civil war party. That and our odd mixture of pride and insecurity. Something I have found is quite similar to Russians about Russia.
As for our debt: Irish debt and interest rates etc. Oh there are issues there, but the tax take and other economic indicators are pretty damned healthy, we have "full employment"(and that has improved since last year and through this year) and compared to our nearast once all powerful imperial neighbour who are a slow motion self inflicted car crash it's hard to look at or look away from we're doing pretty damned well thanks very much. The Rouble is a non currency beyond Russia and any of their deals are still with Dollars or Euro behind them. The Rouble is essentially worthless internationally. Russia's exports have fallen off a cliff and they're burning off their gas reserves in the millions. They're selling their oil at firesale prices. They were never internationally credit worthy and relied on being a giant oil and gas station for a large chunk of their funds and that's not in great shape now. With the unbeliveably stupid kneejerk purloining of their Boeing/Airbus fleet they effectively signed their own economic death warrant as far as international leasing, insurance, financing and accreditation goes. And the damned fools didn't have to do it. They could have gone "OK bad situation, but don't worry, we won't screw over the market and trade because of it, even if our enemies try to impose that on us". It would have cost them feck all and gained them much going forward. Now even their homegrown aero industry is fcuked because their aircraft use western engines and flight systems. That level of sheer idiocy you could barely make up and it's not the only such example.
RAF bombers early in WW2 would have hit a city in Belarus, thinking it was Kiev.
He mentioned better air defence equipment and long range missiles also.
Western tanks wouldn't change much, unless they received large numbers ,but even at that there is no guarantee western tanks would be any real game changer
...or strangle a cat, beat up own wife, pee on the neighbors door, or whatever ruZZkies like to do when the day was bad.
This is what I mean. Were very close to a Nuclear exchange which will most likely mean Armageddon.
The utter arrogance of some people on here thinking this is some game. The same folk would soil themselves if a missile landed within a mile of them.
There was a Ukrainian on the radio earlier saying that they have received zero tanks from the west. He also said if they get the right equipment they would win in weeks. They are not getting the game changing weaponry though.
Exactly. What Europe now has is a bunch of c**ts across the Atlantic having a willy waving contest with another bunch of c**nts in between the urals and both of them are literally laughing and openly destabilizing our part of the world for the last 20 years while Europe sits with its hands underneath its arse because.....uhhh...I dunno .....somebody enlighten me
this is just all looking like a win win for the US, and europe needs to independently decide what is best for it over the next months and possibly years. $20bn cost for for the US to see Europe destabilised and Russia diminished is probably good value for them
You need to think more about the nuclear balance. NATO has nuclear weapons too. So how does that determine what is winnable?
Well, if the Russian establishment is now openly claiming to use this sort of tactic as a destabilising effect to destroy Europe and use it as a bargaining chip to win their "special military operation" then the onus is on the American establishment to make sure that this doesn't happen. Currently the Americans have taken in 150,000 people, but they have gifted 20 billion dollars worth in arms and weaponry over there. What is the European ratio equivalent? Not like for like, is it? Ireland has taken in over 50,000 victims alone.
That fella needs a bomb under his car as well.
I just find it disgusting all the armchair medal of honour recipients on here thinking a war with the Nuclear armed Russia is a winnable one for anybody.
They should take in the same number of people that amounts to the same cost of weaponry they have sent over there
Strange way of equating the total number of refugees, but if that's the case then the entire population of Ukraine, Russia, or indeed the entire former Soviet states will be moving to the US and there still be plenty of room for more, indeed the entire worlds population can move to the US as the costs for US weapons sent is in the billions.
Yeah but protecting Armenia would stretch them thin, it's not like they're surrounded by pro-Russian states. Their selfishness, inaction and inability to fulfil international agreements has also allowed the likes of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and others to distance themselves further by pulling out of the "Indestructible Brotherhood 2022" drills (I **** you not).
They'd be readily more proactive with Belarus since they're right in the middle of it, share logistics and are basically an extension of Russia.
You knew Putin would invade Ukraine,then your 8 years to late
Yeah I set up my account in 2010 with the knowledge I Would need it one day to post in this thread 🙄
But Belarus is a special case when it comes to Putin, there's a good bit of legislation on Belarus that came to be through putins sponsorship,if one country will get military assistance from putin it's Belarus,at this point it's a satellite state of Russia
How many refugees have the Americans taken in? 150,000? They should take in the same number of people that amounts to the same cost of weaponry they have sent over there
Thats exactly why,because they know they will be taken care lf.
And thats why they sent all their refugeees to Finland and Norway during the ISIS Syria crisis as well,because nobody wanted to stay in Russia.
8 in posts in 12 years.
Save us all the nonsense of spoof posts
There just claims we've seen the damage and Locations of the strikes very little evidence of any interceptions anywhere in Ukraine today,
I presume they’re too stupid to see it, but their desire for a surge of refugees to Europe illustrates the idiocy of Putin’s drivel about how Western European countries are supposedly cuck-liberal, deviant-ridden shïtholes.
If it’s so bad here, why do they think refugees will want to come? There certainly is no sign of people queuing to get into Russia
It effects the whole world,so basically everyone is involved one way or the other.
Neutrality only works if you are not Russias neigbour,or member of NATO
Why try and take out the missile ,when you can take out the ship
Time to wipe out that Black Sea fleet
He knows fck all about the Geneva convention for a Swiss...
He's saying he wants to turn us into a poor, hungry and cold Europe, on the brink of survival. Then flood us with a refugee crisis.
I find it amazing that Irish people are still trying to say that we are "neutral" in this or we are a neutral country, when it directly effects us.
We don't have much to offer militarily in this but it doesn't mean we should act like cowards. The price of everything is going up (yes, it was going up before the war too), we are lurking toward an energy crisis, can barely cope with the influx of refugees (who are more than welcome IMO). We are being negatively impacted by this. We are being strategically and purposly negatively impacted by how Russia are behaving, how are we neutral?
There is a difference between neutrality and cowardice. You cant be neutral when it directly effects you. You can be a coward and turn a blind eye though.
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