Never going to happen. And if we were Russian, for this war or vehemently against it, we'd still be very likely into hanging onto the nukes, in case of an actual threat. Would the US, UK, France, China or Israel give up theirs? Not a chance.
As I said, come stronger, Wibbs.
There is no one going forward for some time handing over nukes, it will be the opposite.
The last country to do it was Ukraine.
That’s quite an assumption. A new leader could quite easily blame everything on Putin (whose fault it all is anyway) and call a ceasefire for the purpose of talks with Ukraine
Would make sense to dial back the nuke talk.
To Paraphrase Hulk Hogan, you don't want to work yourself into a shoot.
Yeah he doubled down on it though with arrogance and no doubt he has helped the Ukrainians with that but did he help for the sake of helping them or for the free publicity of his project. The more he reveals of himself the more I wonder.
Poor Kim
I know there is a hugely pro Ukraine bias in here. Does anyone thing these are pyric victories for ukr? It really reminds me of the ardenne offensive in 1944, big push with short term wins that eventually got reversed.
Think it's the opposite. The big wins for Russia and quite easily getting reversed. Not sure what else Russia has left in the tank. They are isolated and running low on machinery supplies. Ukraine is backed by most powers and steady flow of equipment, replacement parts and financial aid.
No not going to happen
Not at all. Russia invaded Ukraine over seven months ago, but the invasion has gone totally pear shaped for them. An invading army that is being forced to retreat and give up places that it previously occupied is hugely ominous for the Putin regime. This is not how successful invasions usually progress.
Ok cool
If anything, that could describe Russia's Summer offensive. Tried to shell their way across the Donbas, only to be halted, and are now being driven back.
I know its optically looking bad for Russia but I think Russian doctorin is to avoid large troop casualties not so Ukraine.
It must come to a point where all the Ukraine troop losses will hurt. They are now imo throwing everything at it before winter and new equipment and troops appear in next few weeks from Russia.
Also the crucial area of tanks the latest shipment to ukr are t55 ww2 tanks 25 I think while t90 new tanks are coming by the train load.
Usa abram1s are designed for sand and are much bigger heavier than Russian tanks.
Second the training for these Western tanks is 6 months.
Finally what I have read is some more advanced tanks they have has to be repaired in Poland..
No .
Russia is losing at the rate of men and equipment they simply cannot maintain in any term short -medium,
Equipment alone has set back the Russian military decades , yesterday they apparently lost 40 + tanks in one day add that to the thousands of tanks,APCs and fighting vehicles they have already lost over the last 7 months,you have to look back to WW2 to see these kind of losses in any military forces,
Meanwhile Ukraine has been turning people away from the army and recruitment offices because they now operate with a surplus of men ,they have more artillery,tanks, vehicles and aircraft than they did pre invasion -
The Ukrainans are fighting and want to fight where the Russians not receiving any real training,and properly equipment before being dumped in Ukraine and told to fight
Easy for the Russians to avoid large troop casualties by simply not regarding tens of thousands of dead troops as large casualties. It would be even easier to avoid such casualties by going back home to Russia.
Ukraine are turning people away while thousands of others are being trained by Nato forces, Russia is scraping the barrel already and we're only 7 months in and by all accounts the losses for ukraine are less than the 60,000 + Russians killed and a similar number wounded and incapacitated
"I know its optically looking bad for Russia but I think Russian doctorin is to avoid large troop casualties not so Ukraine. It must come to a point where all the Ukraine troop losses will hurt. They are now imo throwing everything at it before winter and new equipment and troops appear in next few weeks".
You need to stop thinking.
If I recall correctly 40 is around the number of tanks the US lost over the course of the entire Gulf war. And Russia loses that number in one day? Even if it were half that number it would be unreal and like you said more like WW2 level figures.
At the current rate of collapse of Russian forces we will be seeing the Ukrainan flag flying over svastaspol in 2023
Respectfully, I do not agree. When Ukraine liberates its south areas, Crimea is effectively cut off from Russia. The Kerch bridge will be unusable, only way to re-supply Russian troops in Crimea is by the sea, with significant risks.
In the 2nd gulf war the Americans lost 23 Abrams tanks,
9 through friendly fire ,2 others were deliberately destroyed to prevent capture, others were damaged but eventually returned to service,
The number lost to enemy fire was only 5/6 ,and none were lost in Afghanistan that I'm aware of ,manic Moran should be able to confirm.
Russia has lost thousands of tanks in 7 months, staggering for any modern conflicts
Plus they make such good video clips when they explode. Like a jack-in-the-box.
If Ukrainian military planners ascertain that it would in fact by quite an easy fight, contrary to my fear about it, then by all means they should fire away.
But Russia has only partly mobilised if they went full its a million and there are 20 million could be called up if needed in a total war.
That won't happen unless their soldiers can fight bare handed and naked.
Yeah they're only "partly mobilised" yet they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel signing up oul lads and completely green troops. Equipment seems variable too.
This "we could mobilise millions" stuff has been the Russian spin ever since they got their arses handed to them in the Kyiv offensive and the north and especially since they lost huge tracts of land in September. That and talk of "wonder weapons" and "holding back because we don't want to flatten the country". None of it stacks up though.
And not have to run etc
They're relying on alcoholics and retirees to get another 300,000, the country would be anarchy if they try to conscript many more (they also need people to work as well, this conflict will be a huge brain drain).
I'm pretty sure briany, that Russia will be kept under a magnifying glass for years, generations even, yet to come. Such is the damage Putin has done to brand Russia. The ripples from Putins tenure will take a very long time to fade away.
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