The original question was why the Russian fleet of heavy bombers is absent. If they were launching missiles from these bombers, they would be tracked from take off.
They could launch hypersonic missiles, but how many do they actually have? If they are used in Ukraine, how many are left as a deterrent. There is a reason they are used so infrequently. A ground-launched Armenian Iskander missile was shot down.
thats true,but its still doing hypersonic speed and does a semi ballistic trajectory and will be harder to stop than a iskander or kalibr missile unless you detect it early,and Ukraine doesnt have AWACS either,unless NATO provide it.
And i think you need atleast a THAAD or Patriot system to be able to stop them,something Ukraine dont have.
They were being used up until very recently, they were launching missles from the Russian side of the blacksea where they are relatively safe from anti aircraft defenses,
They lost one tu22m bomber over Georgia a few years back due to a Anti aircraft defenses ever since they only use fighters to bomb in conflict areas .,,
Yes, according to Ukraine they shot down most of the six X-101 air launched cruise missiles recently, no doubt helped by real time tracking intelligence. I think what the original question was getting at is why Russia is not carpet-bombing assembled Ukrainian forces with their fleet of bombers.
The Manhattan scientists knew full well the destructive nature of the bomb and made their concerns known to both Roosevelt and Truman at the time. Scientists that designed and built both Fat Man and Little Boy urged the President to seriously reconsider using it and were largely against its use themselves by 1945, as they deemed it to be unnecessary by then because of how the war had progressed. So conflicted were some of them that the joined in with Leo Szilard in drafting a petition to the White House that recommended against using the bomb, because they were well aware of the monster that they had created.
“I knew by this time that it would not be possible to dissuade the government from using the bomb against the cities of Japan...I thought the time had come for the scientists to go on record against the use of the bomb against the cities of Japan on moral grounds."
Szilard, who along with Albert Einstein, had originally urged Roosevelt to begin research on an atomic weapon in 1939, had come to a complete about face with regards to its actual use in 1945.
That's the equivalent of the drunk fella thinking he's frightening the other drunk fella by shadowboxing on the opposite side of the carpark to the chipper
I read somewhere that 6 more weeks of conventional bombing would have ended the war.
I will put the hypersonic up with the 5 tanks and 5 fancy jets they have.
They simply cannot afford to lose their bombers,
They have used the threat of Long range bombers for decades but they don't have the ability to manufacture large advanced aircraft including bombers like the US can ,
Compare stealth aircraft
Su57 is the current only stealth aircraft regularly has been detected by radar and Old air craft ,
Russia has a fleet of 5 of them.
America has produced 840 + F35 stealth aircraft not just for themselves but their allies too ,
Not including other types being produced at the same time.
The strategic bombing survey concluded that Japan would have surrendered by December at best and, more than likely, before November.
I do not want to get into a debate about the use of the atomic bomb on Japan but all of the above is revisionism and basically BS
Yeah I forgot they are (or were) in more regular use, but as missile launching platforms, kept safely back from Ukraine's airspace and defences there. I presume they could "deliver" more explosives if Russia would or could risk them inside Ukraine, but that is not going to happen.
Seeing as it's off topic, it's the last I'll mention of the atomic bomb on the thread. But if that's what your bringing to the table, then it's probably best that you don't get into a debate about it.
"Revisionism" 🙄
Thats basically all they have left soon if this offensive keeps its pace
Thanks. 2.5 hours would drive me insane. Brief "highlights" are enough
Is there a run on Russian banks?
Chatter that people are panicking and taking out their cash.
I'm sorry, revisionism? Every historian, author in this field, even the much lauded and extremely accurate documentary concur with what Tony EH has written. Its a FACTUAL account, corroborated by multiple sources. For Christ sake I had to study it in college and for work.
You do know what revisionism means?
We do not need any history lessons on nuclear weapons so please drop that discussion
pick a number
5 years later the same neocons presured GW Bush into his "famous" statement during the NATO summit in Bucharest regarding Ukraine becoming a NATO member
Russia stole Ukrainian grain for $ 530 million and invested this money in the war - joint investigation associated press and PBS "Frontline"
To reach this conclusion, journalists investigated the routes of 30 ships transporting grain from the occupied territories of Ukraine to the ports of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and other countries.
In some cases, the Russians forged customs declarations, in others they exported Ukrainian grain in small batches to Rostov and Taganrog. They mixed with their own and exported them as Russian.
Farmers in the occupied regions are forced to sell their crops to Russian-controlled companies at half price when compared with pre-war tariffs. Whoever refuses, the Russians simply take grain from him, Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov was quoted as saying by the AP.
"This is robbery and looting, and it is also a criminal offense under international military law," David Crane, former chief prosecutor of the United Nations War Crimes Tribunal in Sierra Leone.
All Your Grain Are Belong To Us inc. - formerly known as Mordor.
Seems a few reporting on this now.
One of the largest public protests in world history IIRC and across the world with it.
For like two days back in February that happened. I doubt it's repeating now, why would it? Unless people think the Putin regime might collapse? But are we really at that point yet?
It was already been discussed before the summit that year,there was no surprise, just like Ukraine applying for Nato membership ship it's been discussed since the early 90's in official circles, Putin himself was at that nato summit
Haven't read anything about a bank run from a solid source tbh.
Elon Musk earned scorn from both a Ukrainian ambassador and the Ukrainian president himself this week after the Tesla CEO tweeted what he thinks needs to be done to broker peace between Russia and Ukraine. The ambassador put it quite bluntly: “f— off.”
On Monday afternoon, Musk put up a poll on Twitter, asking his followers to vote “yes” or “no” on whether his advice would lead to peace. The Tesla CEO listed four bullet points in his post, which largely implied that Ukraine should make concessions.
“Ukraine-Russia Peace: Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people,” Musk wrote. “Crimea formally part of Russia, as it has been since 1783 (until Khrushchev’s mistake). Water supply to Crimea assured. Ukraine remains neutral.”
Ukraine's reply to the arse hat:
Do you support the transfer of a controlling stake in Tesla and SpaceX to the ownership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to combat world (Russian) terrorism?
Anonymous Poll
96% Yes
4% No
Have you seeen any antiwar protests in Russia number 8 or 10,000, never mind 80,000 or 100,000? No. No, you haven't. And there's a lot more of them. Nearly thirty times more.
Thank you. However, the whole "Nuclear train" hype is just, hype.
I'm still betting on an underwater Black Sea detonation or Arctic detonation.
Let's see where the support equipment ends up. Also, watch prevailing winds.
Or the weirder stuff they have on the go, on the quiet.
The stealth Lockheed F117 first flew in 1981 out of the "Have Blue" project which flew in the mid 70's. We didn't get to hear of it until the end of the 1980's. Interesting or no; the maths of stealth tech was actually invented by a Russian lad, a professor of maths in the USSR. The Americans learned of this and included his calculations into their tech. IIRC the Russian guy is still alive, or was until recently
To address the Nuclear Train hype, its just a delivery of new Armoured Personell carriers that went into mass production 4 months ago. There is no confirmation that this train is doing anything other than moving these BMPs.
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