The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
With our last two cars we had to reverse up to the charger so could reach both cars in the rare event that we needed to charge the two cars on the one night. (Advantage of having a missus who goes swimming every morning at 6am😉)
Much easier now with the charge port on opposite sides to the previous cars, can drive in forward and park normally. Long Zappi cable reaches both cars.
Of course the right side is the wrong side, but works well with the Ioniq 5. 😊
A car in the middle space definitely wouldn't present an obstacle to one of those things 😁
Just park it over the hub and use the charger as a ladder to get out of it 😂
Likewise, but I kind of prefer the EV6 and Ioniq 5 idea of putting it at the back corner. Means you don't need to squeeze past the cable as much when it's plugged in at a charging station
I guess Tesla also have the right idea even though they put the charging port on the wrong side
(That should trigger a few Tesla owners 🤣)
Kia is a mix, EV6 has it back right, E-Niro is front left
Stellantis is all back left AFAIK
Can't wait to see someone import an F150 Lightning and try parking it at one of ESBs 3 car hubs. It'll probably take up the whole thing 😱
What cars actually have the port on the back right? IDs, Enyak, Born, Ioniq 5. Any others? Audi and Kia?
I can understand VW's thinking putting it there ... muscle memory for ICE owners. It's a pain for everyone when it comes to poorly laid out charging locations (i.e. almost every location set up by ESB eCars 😁)
Although, car manufacturers should eventually resolve to a common location.
I cannot understand the logic of putting the charge port beside the front doors. Most charging stations are bay parking so you're just making life awkward
VW are bad enough putting it where the petrol cap would be 🙄
Imagine how puzzled would be a leaf owner getting an Ariya with its charging port in similar position as the Audi in the picture. Would probably blame the CCS :))
I was in the area so I went to see if any works have started at Circle K Clonshaugh. No they haven't but passed the ESB unit. A classic Ioniq was charging, a leaf was parked on the other bay waiting and a MG5 was on the road charging on the AC43. Next time I'll take a picture for your collection.
Yes there was to be fair.
And obviously I removed the reg making the grill wonky.
Unusually courteous for an Audi driver, normally they'd park across both spaces 😂
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and suggest that there was probably another car in the left hand space when they arrived 🤔
The grill is all smashed on that car. Maybe on the best of drivers on a normal day 🫣
Ballacolla. I'm just going to keep posting ESB parking issues.
I was in Castlebellingham North on friday, 2-5 teslas charging at all times. queues of 2-4 on the ecars charger. Had to laugh at the fools in the wrong car
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I was in Castlebellingham yesterday and witnessed the dreaded eCars queue cluster.....
When I arrived there were 4 Tesla's on the Superchargers, and as I plugged in, 1 left so still 4 Tesla's on the SuC, then I noticed another Tesla on the eCars 50kW unit (why not as it's cheaper)... then a Tesla on the SuC went down to the eCars unit and plugged into the AC43 (maybe they couldn't the a charge from the SuC??), and as that happened, an iX arrived (jesus they are a big bus), but luckily within a minute or 2 the Tesla using the eCars CCS left so the iX plugged in, but then within about 3-4 minutes, an e-tron and a Leaf arrived....
so lets say the iX and e-tron both wanted only a 30 minute charge!, the guy in the Leaf is waiting an hour just to get on the charger before starting his 30 minute charge!!!
At 5pm on a Sunday evening, I would not be impressed if I had to wait an hour just to get on a charger on the busiest motorway in Ireland!!
Applegreen need to sh1t or get off the pot here... ASAP!
That would be a bizzare turn of events, though the bottom line of your statement would likely be welcomed by most
That goes against everything the city council is trying to do right now, they don't want people driving to the city at all. So applying your statement to their logic they should actively block AC charging to ensure nobody has a desire to drive to the city.
Does anybody ever really wait on an AC charge (ignoring FastAC Zoe's), that sounds like a 1-2% use case. If you are doing that then the general on-route charging infrastructure has gone very wrong.
That's easy to find someone with an interest, Dublin City council. Give away the kilowatts for free and charge more for parking.
Gets people going into the city, giving the council money and also spending the rest on dinner and coffee and stuff, keeping businesses alive and protecting the council's income from business property rates
I mean I'm surprised even the councils haven't realised that if you install a bunch of AC chargers in a location with lots of amenities then people with EVs will tend to visit and stay for several hours. And a bunch of people standing around bored with fun things to do around them will probably start spending some of their hard earned cash to stave off the boredom
If the info for the Dublin EV strategy document came from eCars then the numbers indicate that you just can't make money selling electricity via AC chargers. They need to be seen as an ancillary service where the site owner has an alternative motive to keep you on-site.
All of them.
Really, is that the SR or all of them? I was sure I've seen Bjorn charging at 16kW on AC
The Model 3 is 11kW max.
To be fair your model 3 charges at 16kW, so not far off 22kW. A lot of cars are maxing out at 11kW
I think it's fair that the 22kW is an option, it does generally require more hardware
I think if I had something like a free workplace charger, or was dependent on a destination charger frequently then I'd probably go for it. In my current situation I mightn't bother
It was a £2.5k option for Tesla when it was available, don’t know why but loads of early adopters went for it. I had it on my S and it was amazingly convenient, thought I’d miss it but my adversity to public charging since getting a 3 means I’ve only had one public charging session so guess it’s not that much of a loss after all…
ESB have said they are not interested in rolling out AC chargers.
Not interested in rolling out more AC chargers, and incapable of rolling out intercity motorway hubs....
They are creating a nice little niche for themselves of 'wherever and whatever we choose' to install.... and 9 times out of 10 it looks like they are going after the lowest hanging fruit...
Ecars presumably at all these 22 X 2 AC sites have around 50kW power available. Besides DC chargers they should be putting in 7 or X 7kW charge points and if they can load share make one or two 22kW. Particularly in Dublin city centre and other places they are in use all day long. ESB have said they are not interested in rolling out AC chargers.
That would be very inadvertent
I find it very annoying that more cars didn't go for the 22kW AC. I know it adds cost but they could do it as an option like the Model S (and possibly the Peugeot e208, might be wrong on that)
It would make the AC network a lot more attractive to users, and it turn it would make more money for Ecars and they might install more
In a bizarre turn of events you'd make Ireland the best country for those Chinese made EVs with their Chademo derivative flast charging (BGT or something, can't remember)
So you might inadvertently make EVs considerably more affordable 😂
Seems like a reasonable request that definitely won't have me going bankrupt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
While I'm at it I'll make sure the coffee is cold
