True, but this clip looks like a set piece - like something intended to send a message to Putin and agreed to by NATO.
Link to NATO presser
https://youtu.be/Q0qskUOHJzs
The tweet from Biden saying he'll end NS2 if Russia invaded?
It's enough proof for some on here!
I wonder what type of public servants they bussed in this time:
Yeah, its odd that he would make such a public declararion only for him to be turned down - something that would be mana for the propagandists on Russian TV. I wonder is there a big gesture coming to match the theatrics in the Kremlin earlier....
Notice there's no fallen leaves and there's summer bedding flowering in the background. I see some conifers alright they're evergreen, but it's unusually tidy looking for autumn.
He's supposedly a great actor too.
I'm perplexed
I don't understand this talk about a Ukrainian application to join though. Surely being slapped down or told "maybe in xyz years" would be very demotivating.
Especially after we have all seen their previous 'proofs' constructed, as it seems, by some 4 year old with a basick PS knowledge. 🤣
News from Lyman, unsubstantiated.
You're not perplexed, say what you are really thinking and quit Jaq'ing yourself.
I've already annexed it for my Baltic bolthole, so you'll hear nothing about it again. 😁
It being rejected is not the point. it's the act of applying that is the point. It's basically 2 fingers up at Russia in response to today's dog & pony show in Moscow.
Applying is one thing, being accepted is another. We all know it's not going to happen for the foreseeable future
Andrei Tarkovsky it aint....
Sergei Naryshkin was the poor bastard that was sweating bullets when Putin publicly scolded him for letting the Donbas annexation plan out of the bag back in the February 22nd. Surprised he didn't present the evidence that the US caused the explosions 6 months before they even happened.
Check out the flowers and the tree's and shrubs, zero color or leaves on the ground. The bedding plants are summer bedding. They should be off color by now.
The ground is impeccably clean, no fall.
As I see it, things are so critical now Zelenskyy would not make a video like this off his own bat without consulting with NATO. And obviously NATO gave him the go ahead, which means...
Obviously the West has skewed the poll:-
Oh Christ... they're evergreen trees! 🤦♂️
Are you looking for a bunch of flowers lol you sure know where to pick them Mr :D
I think myself the best way now the Ukraine is to retake one annexed area as quickly as they can. The longer they wait the trickier it gets. I do not think Russian people by the large would be too bothered by that. As for Russian clams of information about N1 N2 I wouldn't take them too seriously. Russia has a track records off claiming proof of one kind or another whether its sinking a ferry or shooting down civilian airlines. Not to mention covering up all kinds of disasters. They have no credibility left and that's their own doing.
Call between US National Security Adviser @JakeSullivan46 and @NATO SecGen @jensstoltenberg on Ukraine. "They discussed their shared concern over Russia's illegitimate attempts to purportedly annex Ukrainian territory. protection of critical infrastructure"
Jens is about to kick off
Let's see what NATO has to say:-
A pic from the video?
The one with autumnal brown leaves in the background around Zelensky's head? Perplexed my left one.
He could be taking the line that since Russia has annexed the territory, it is no longer Ukrainian territory that is disputed so his application can go ahead.
I doubt it though, since to argue that would be to legitimise the Russian annexation.
Tricky ain't it?
Awfully easily perplexed
Where did this disputed territory stopping application thing come from?
It requires unanimous approval by all members. That's it.
I'm not sure...but it's been mentioned a few times on this thread. After I posted I checked and I couldn't find it on the NATO website either.
I guess we'll see what the NATO speech contains. I'd be surprised, but you never know....
He's not going to be taking that line. Ukraine is Ukraine is Ukraine. They're not going to concede an inch of land. (Not under current circumstances anyway)
He's doing this as a direct response to Putin's actions today. An act of defiance, to show that Ukraine will make it's own way in the world, and that it is completely ignoring the sham attempt to annex part of it's sovereign territory.
Whether NATO file the application under "pending", due to them not controlling their own borders currently, or whether NATO have pre-agreed some kind of process for them is the only open question I can see at the moment.
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