I don't understand this talk about a Ukrainian application to join though. Surely being slapped down or told "maybe in xyz years" would be very demotivating.
Especially after we have all seen their previous 'proofs' constructed, as it seems, by some 4 year old with a basick PS knowledge. 🤣
Notice there's no fallen leaves and there's summer bedding flowering in the background. I see some conifers alright they're evergreen, but it's unusually tidy looking for autumn.
He's supposedly a great actor too.
I'm perplexed
Yeah, its odd that he would make such a public declararion only for him to be turned down - something that would be mana for the propagandists on Russian TV. I wonder is there a big gesture coming to match the theatrics in the Kremlin earlier....
I wonder what type of public servants they bussed in this time:
The tweet from Biden saying he'll end NS2 if Russia invaded?
It's enough proof for some on here!
Link to NATO presser
https://youtu.be/Q0qskUOHJzs
True, but this clip looks like a set piece - like something intended to send a message to Putin and agreed to by NATO.
There is a 0% chance that Ukraine will be joining NATO while they're at war with Russia.
I am not sure what Zelensky is playing at with this statement, unless he's looking for some sort of security guarantee after this war.
There is a certain irony in the face of Putin's anti Western diatribe in his speech. that probably the most successful periods of Russian history were under the likes of Peter and Catherine, (and to a lesser extent under the WW2 Lease back arrangement and Krustchev thaw post Stalin) when they looked west and embraced Western European ideas and practices. Indeed St Petersburg probably wouldnt exist and Moscow would be still a muddy backwater only for the embrace of western Europe ideas of urban planning and architecture.
And as for now, so much of the bravado and bling of both the propaganda TV shows and the social media gung ho of young Russians owes so much to Western, especially US culture.
As the sayings goes, if you cant beat us , join us....
Stoltenberg will have to come out later with something other than the usual frowns, worried expression, and don't rock the boat answers.
Puttin just kicked a rather large Hail Mary, it's going to have to be fúcked back with interest.
Reminds me of an 80's cooking segment "and here's some proof we baked earlier".
Won't change a thing he's been applying to join Nato for the last 7 months
Eh?
Steven segal went swimming and found all the evidence
Finland has now closed it's border to Russian tourists.
A lot of them are trained in the arts of war....
Its worth watching a few minutes of to see the audience of largely grumpy looking pension-age men that is the Kremlin's golden circle of trust....
Likely none (or loads of made up proof).
Sims video game discs again ?
Statement from Joe Biden:-
This is interesting for Putin and his would-be successors.
If or when the heat in Russia is too much to handle, taking out Putin would be the first step toward peace with Ukraine.
I didn't even watch the speech nor am I going to. The whole thing is an arrogant charade and only destroys whatever respect people have left for Russia. Pfff...
What 'proof' do they have?
But putin and Russia's moves were not unprovoked and didn't magically appear out of thin air and America had the biggest hand in that
I completely disagree, there was simply no provocation (apart from the usual tit for tat nonsense that has been going on for decades) that could have goaded Putin into a full on push into Europe.
In fact the reality is, it was the Wests inaction, appeasement and tut tut approach that emboldened Putin's monumental stupidity to try and get the old band back together.
the way Putin has declared war on western technological advancements basically saying Russians dont need this BS technology is amusing, he will gladly mop up all the Chinese rip offs of this tech though going forward
We already have some materials that point to the Western footprint in the organization and implementation of this terrorist act," Sergei Naryshkin of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service told journalists. "In my opinion, the West is doing everything to hide the true perpetrators and organizers of this international terrorist act
Take with a pinch of salt, but no doubt plenty of "see I told you" type posts to follow.
Well.
Why not
I am not disagreeing with you.
I am disagreeing with the statement that you can not join NATO cause you have a territorial dispute. It has nothing to do with it.
It's ridiculous. It is now entirely populated by Russians and Germany has accepted its eastern borders on the Oder Neiße line as final. I don't understand why people keep bringing it up. East Prussia is gone and not coming back
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