Intended for his Chinese audience as well I imagine...
No again not everyone in Nato wants Ukraine in Nato ..
Territorial disputes or not 30 + years we have been hearing about Ukraine joining nato , and it could be another ten years and still be discussing it
No they won't, but it has nothing to do with having a "territorial dispute"
Accessions have been held up due to disputes, as it requires unanimity (e.g. Cyprus and previously North Macdonia) but its not like there is some hard rule that would stop their acceptance if everyone wanted. That's ultimately not the reason.
I tried to annex my wifes side of the bed one time, had pretty much the same effect as putin's claim.....
I would not be surprised at all that Russians will lap this up as a win and support putin in it. Like most have. Those who didn't were few and/or left. The more recent fleeing was to save their own skins when Ukrainians being murdered got too real for them.
Actually now that I think of it, even more bizzare as Stalin fully backed the same mass bombing of German cities. He was a dab hand at it himself with artillery. And rape. He also stood back and let Warsaw be destroyed so he could take it over more easily after the war. Then again he had carved Poland up with his buddy Adolf before the war so... Then again Russians learn none of this in school. And I can confirm they'll get right twitchy if you point actual history out.
Not everyone in Nato wants Ukraine in Nato,
So no Ukraine will not be joining Nato any time soon unfortunately
That may explain the "sans" - "Dispute?, what dispute?" - you never know, NATO might be "good with a pen" too.
He wouldn't have had the license for that speech (as much) pre gas lines blowing up.
Now it's not Russia V Ukraine but Russia V USA, for his own populace.
And who will lead this fight?
VLADIMER PUTIN.
If every member state wants them in NATO they'll be in NATO.
I highly doubt that is going to be the case though, territorial disputes or otherwise.
Well earned:-
I wonder what the mood music in Hungary is like this afternoon after Putin's speech, considering Viktor Orbán continues to do business with Russia. Hungarians might say, their meagre revenues for Russian energy will not solely fund Putin's war, but y'know what Hungary, it just looks bad....
Exactly this.
He would be better asking for long range weapons capability
Unfortunately the application will mean nothing, you can't join NATO when you have territorial disputes, they must be settled peacefully before acceptance into the alliance.
Edit: Although Ukraine earlier saying they have good news and a mysterious NATO press briefing later on, who knows?
No doubt, as measured by the same polling companies who conducted the referendum in Ukraine. I'd say 110% approval rating at least. Doncha just love democracy Russian style, just like evil capitalism, Russian style!
Did the gobshíte actually come out with that? Jaysus...
They're fighting for their nation, for sure, and part of that is fighting for its destiny. If enough Ukrainians saw their destiny as being inextricably linked to that of Russia's and wanted to go arm in arm with that country into the future, then I don't see how Ukraine's resistance would be as stubborn as it has been. The soldiers would large-scale down tools, refuse to fight, and the people would be in revolt against the Ukrainian government. These things have not happened.
The worse part is lavrov will be standing up in the UN crying how ukraine has invaded Russian sovereign territory and calls for the UN to ask Ukraine to withdraw it's forces from Russian soil
Ukraine is not doing anything "sans the 4 republics" as no one else on planet Earth recognises them as anything but part of Ukraine.
Ukraine is submitting an application to join NATO, -President Zelenskyi said following the results of the NSDC meeting
yup. They didn't win getting to Kyiv, but that was a feint apparently. They didn't win in the north east either. It took them months to take Mariupol, they've not moved down south in months, oh and they didn't win the first week of this month when they had their Special Retreat Operation in the east. They've had more feints than a dramatic Victorian debutante. Even as his speech was going on he was winning less land...
They have grabbed the "independent republics" which gives putin a spin win to his peasants, but that's not going away as a big violent problem any time soon. He said he wasn't going to invade. He did. He swore no conscripts would be at the front. He lied. He swore no mobilisation. He lied. That's not going over well among his vassals in the regions and it can be argued there are more Russian men fleeing his mobilisation than Ukrainians.
Oh and putin's Russia was slapped with some of the worst sanctions in history, with more to come and billions being poured into Ukraine to keep on keeping on. Never mind the loss of any political goodwill in the bits of the world that matter. And that includes China.
Well you're always not too far behind me no matter where I post,so when I seen it was yourself I wasn't surprised.
No doubt Putin's approval rating will burst thru the ceiling after this...
Just look at the expressions of the four stooges though! Thoughts of 'Am I mad' floating around their heads and are we all dead men walking.
At least you're consistent in banging the same old drum, even it's been ruptured and shredded by Russian artillery and munitions.... for months past.
Skip to the 4:40 mark
I've never seen Putin try and express himself as much as he does when he's chanting at the very end. You can really see how much of his face has been immobilised by whatever cosmetic treatments he has had.
Will not happen for the same reasons it wouldnt happen in the beginning.
We are not close to WW3 - NATO will not put boots on the ground (or air), and Putin won't be stupid enough to use nukes. It will be the status quo for years to come, a bloody but regional conflict in South and East Ukraine.
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He might as well declared an annexation of London and Washington, this annexation of Ukraine territory is as likely.
What a thing to say.
It's never going to happen,
They will keep sending orc smashing goodies , weapons and so on but they won't impose a no fly zone, ukraine isn't a Nato member , but even at that they might need a UN mandate to do so and guess who's going to veto that idea
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