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Workplaces with colds/flu/covid

fun loving criminal

How are workplaces dealing with things going forward?

HSE seems to be still saying to isolate with symptoms of covid. Also says covid can feel like a cold. So that to me means people with colds shouldn't be in work.

Had someone come into work with a cold and I complained and I was dismissed because apparently they had four tests done so that's all ok to my workplace. But the HSE says you still have to isolate with symptoms and doesn't say anything about doing 2,3,4,5 or 10 tests and you're good to go on your merry way if they're all negative. They say a negative test just means it didn't detect covid and to continue isolate with symptoms.

So how are other workplaces dealing with things? I'm not happy having to work with someone knowing that it can take a few days to get a positive test.

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CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119683163#Comment_119683163

But there are practical and cheap ways for Billy to reduce the risk to others. A high quality face mask, staying away from others as much as possible (it might not be). Where I work we are on top of each other due to the nature of the job, but our boss went out and bought high quality masks. In the few cases of Covid that effectively were missed, there was no onwards transmission. There was even a reduction over Covid in sick days overall. Now you can argue the other way that it's not good for the body not to get these immune challenges but that's outside this discussion. The truth is if Billy has to come in because his boss doesn't do sick pay ( his boss will soon legally have to), then he can reduce the risk to others with simple measures rather than coughing and spluttering all over the place.

DoctorEdgeWild

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119683124#Comment_119683124

None of this changes the fact that Billy might have a bill to pay. A day's pay can be the difference between keeping your head above water and not. Lofty ideals, civic mindedness and caring for others may be the best way for society to function but it does not pay a bill in the real world.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119682850#Comment_119682850

Not really practical when Billy comes into work and gets the rest of us sick and miserable. Yes we might be able to work but its slower and miserable, and one of us might get a dose that lands in bed for a few days. Billy doesn't know who is immunocomprimised or who is looking after someone, long story short, Billy is a dick. There is also the case that if your boss doesn't realise the benefit of Billy staying at home for 2 days so the rest of you don't slow down, then you have a stupid boss. There is some case to be made if you can work alone or at least away from others.

I say this knowing full well when I was younger I would have been Billy and not really thought about it. Now that the world knows alot more about stuff, if Billy insists on coming in because he can't get sick leave until next year, at the very least, wear a high grade mask and work in another part of the building/yard/site.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119682850#Comment_119682850

Others have bills to pay as well... So one person coming in sick makes it usually miserable at work for the rest of workers as well. Since we (at my job) work most of the time outside in any kind of weather, it's a pain when because of one person the rest of us gets sick too.

fun loving criminal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119683033#Comment_119683033

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/symptoms/overview/

Here

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119682912#Comment_119682912

Can you link to that please.

DoctorEdgeWild

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119682912#Comment_119682912

I'm in England so things are different here. It's been back to normal for quite some time.

But to answer your question, a person may have to work to pay their bills. The employer probably can't go too far with questioning someone about their medical situation I'd imagine?

StupidLikeAFox

Surely it's in the companys interest for the sick person to stay at home - why would they want a sick person infecting everyone else (covid or not)?

fun loving criminal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119682850#Comment_119682850

Where does the HSE fit into all this? The website is clear. Isolate with symptoms. This is surely a problem for workplaces if they're allowing sick people work. Is this not a liability issue for workplaces if they are going against HSE?

DoctorEdgeWild

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119682813#Comment_119682813

Not really practical for a lot of us. Bills to pay etc.

CramCycle

Covid aside, if you're sick, stay at home.

washman3

It's over. Move on. Most of the population contracted it and 99.9% recovered.

We were sold a pup, strangely by the same "experts" who have a history of making wrong calls.

DoctorEdgeWild

Over here in England it’s all back to normal. Have one lad with Covid in at the moment, he did take one day off on Monday and sounded very rough but he’s working away again. A few sneezes and coughs around this time of year too. 25 person workplace.

fun loving criminal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119681549#Comment_119681549

Is it a HSA issue if the workplace is deciding on ignoring HSE guidelines?

callaway92

Common sense should prevail

If someone is clearly not well (a bug, a cold, sick symptoms) they should either be taking a sick day or working from home

It’s grossly unfair on others when someone is coughing and sniffling all-round-them and handling everything in the place etc. it’s also bad form by management not saying a thing - It’s always been a bugbear of mine, even before covid