It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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SOOO the only way to trigger an election is by a vote of no confidence passing OR a budget being defeated. Since this technically isnt THE budget and is what they call a mini budget then I dont think it qualifies as being an automatic election triggered but it would make her position and the torys pretty untenable in the publics eye if it was defeated.
LBC just said if the poll stands the Tories will be left with 69 seats.
The headline will write itself- 'Fall of the Blue Wall'
Meanwhile the BBC are trolling Truss now, theyve gone and put all eight radio interviews together back to back so people can listen to a full hour of car crash radio. They've labelled it 'The Liz Truss Local Radio Interviews'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0d3flmh
So going on this mornings utterances from Liz truss and her determination in ploughing on, if these measures in the mini budget which have to voted on, if they were defeated would that trigger an election as Liz truss by definition wouldn’t command a majority in the HOC ?
Because of FPTP, you'd need to see more regional breakdowns.
I mean a big chunk of it could be safe Labour seats going from 65% of the vote to 90% of the vote or whatever. , but that's not an extra seat..
You'd love to see some polling from some Tory strongholds and especially those former "red wall" areas..
Tory party conference is this weekend isn't it....
The times journalist plugged the numbers into a seat calculator. It had Labour on 541 seats and the Tories on 2 (TWO)!
Obviously this is transient and those numbers are sure to narrow but it's still objectively hilarious.
If there was a GE tomorrow the Tories would have to go into coalition with every other non Labour Party to get 44% 🤣
This truly is unprecedented though, I reckon within the next 2 weeks we will either see more letters into the 1922 committee asking for rule change for a VONC or Tory back benchers crossing the aisle in a vain hope of holding onto their seats in the inevitable GE.
So Johnson got an 80 seat majority on ~43% of the vote - What does 54% equate to ??
That's an utter annihilation if replicated in an Election
Things getting worse for the Tories.
Never heard of that guy before last Friday. I've seen him a few times since then and he comes across as a slimy, fast talking shyster.
apparently the biggest lead by any government at any time for nearly 30 years
listening to drivetime on UK radio and it’s causing some shockwaves
but Truss has no choice but to double down. If she u-turns she is done. Apparently loads of Tory MPs not going to the conference including Sunak and supporters.
the conservatives are finished
Delusion on a medical level.
That's game over for this government.
New YouGov poll just out in the last 30 minutes and its a shocker
Labour surges to 33-point lead over Tories in YouGov pollGap in party support thought to be biggest since 1990s
Labour has surged to a 33-point poll lead over the Conservatives after a week of market turmoil triggered by Liz Truss’s tax-cutting budget. The YouGov poll for The Times finds Tory support has fallen by seven points in the past four days amid fears the government’s plans will lead to spiralling interest rate rises.
This has got to be a record
Not quite sure Boris would have been on every channel. He was captain hide and seek during a lot of his premiership. Hiding in fridges, banning ministers from appearing on good morning Britain etc. He too hid when the going got tough and sent out his ministers to lie no end for him rather than face them himself. He would do a controlled blather speech every now and then rather than facing the media for an interview.
As the saying goes "a week is a long time in Politics" so regardless of the original plan for these interviews her complete lack of ability and agility to "read the room" and either prepare properly for them or to arrange a proper full long form interview on a national platform to address the overwhelmingly negative responses to her policies is utterly unforgivable politically.
Boris would have been on every channel - He'd be talking utter bollocks of course, but it would be blustering, confident bollocks with lots of buzz-words and literary quotes thrown in to fill in the spaces to avoid detailed questions.
When she finally plucked up the courage to appear, her performance was abject in every way.
Thank you for the concern. Just checked and my stress levels are fine.
But back to the topic, Do you agree that Truss has been a complete disaster in her short run as PM? Not that the party can claim to be any better. They were all clapping Kwasi on Friday, laughing that the rich got a nice tax cut.
Not only has she completely wrecked the credibility of herself and Kwasi, she is pushing through Fracking despite opposition from the majority in the country, the science advising against it, and it will have very limited real impact on the energy price and none on the energy crisis.
She did a terrible round of interviews this morning. This should be her honeymoon period, the chance to wipe away the bad feelings that forced MP's to ditch Johnson, get a bounce in the polls and to look ahead to the next election.
Not exactly going to plan
The worse part about those interviews were the long silences followed by a totally different canned answer. I think there's a good chance she had some useless handlers who were thrusting different pieces of paper in front of her to read out.
Rory Stewart did a really good interview yesterday. He was very polite when asked about her and very thoughtful but still managed to absolutely ream her with surgical precision:
In a nutshell, he said that she had no depth whatsoever and that this is now being exposed ruthlessly.
I would say she thought the tax cuts would be a bit of a political bun fight and that’s it, not realizing for one second the wider ramifications.
the interviews with local radio was purely coincidental and she was probably expecting to be answering questions about local hospitals and roads and not about why the economy very nearly went down the shitter.
Yes I am, I’m merely pointing out the fact that the arranged interviews were with regionals and not nationals…. Suggesting they knew they’d be on the defensive way in advance!
You need to keep an eye on the blood pressure there. I was merely clarifying the situation.
Her "handlers" are obviously crap as well.
Not one of the questions asked were remotely unexpected given what has gone on over the last few days and for her to have absolutely nothing ready in terms of responses is just awful.
Either she and her team didn't prepare or they did prepare and she crumbled on air and couldn't remember the prepared responses.
Neither version is a good thing for someone attempting to lead the government of a major nation.
So what? So what if they were arranged 10 years ago? They were arranged weeks ago to help seel Truss to the public, they were not set up to talk about the crashing markets, as that only happened since Friday. What is the point you are trying to make?
You know that as PM she can pretty much demand an interview slot with any organisation at pretty much any time. She is, as I pointed out, completely free to cancel any slot.
That she is so weak as to not be able to make a change? That somehow once they are booked the PM can never change?
And seeing as they were known in advance, what excuse can she possibly have for such a terrible performance?
She was expected to defend the tax cuts as they were by far the most pertinent issue facing the country today. She just instead went with some talking points from a policy from 2 weeks ago and hoped no one would notice. Doesn't exactly scream leadership.
There is more going on than just these tax cuts, you do realise that?
a new PM being interviewed on local radio and being asked about local issues, such as fracking, is nothing unusual.
If the were really arranged weeks ago it suggests they knew dam well the reaction would be bad!
If they expected it to be good they’d have had interviews lined up with the big dogs to take all the praise on offer, not little “middle England” regionals! They knew the demographic they were attacking!
This morning, when I read the BBC news, it said that the PM was expected to defend the tax cuts in a series of interviews with local BBC radio stations, that were arranged several weeks ago.
that is why I posted it, to clarify things. But obviously on here we don’t let little things like facts get in the way of a good rant.
On the expectation of a rate rise, a reversal of this policy or a collapse of the government or possibly all three.
Truss's interviews this morning on top of the problems she's created have almost certainly ended her premiership - she may now not even see out her conference.
The market has read the tea leaves and knows change is coming because the current path is unsustainable. And has priced accordingly.
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