Putin's spokesperson: ceremony to annex occupied Ukrainian lands tomorrow at 15:00 Moscow time, Putin to make a statement
No , the pipes are nearly 2 inches of high quality steel, wrapped in 4 Inches of reinforced Concrete.
The fatigue would also have had to register on the Richter scale in Denmark. Where they described it as like a big WW2 bomb.
There seems to be no concern about the quality of the work.
And so it begins:-
Who's next?
Is there a case to be made for metal fatigue . Is there a possibility for the contractor charging €4bn to construct but used only 2nd to construct and trousered the rest - while using very cheap material to build it
Well these 10 Orcs wont be shooting at any more Ukrainian civillians. Not enough, but it's a start.
Things heating up with NATO and NS1/NS2, they have just released a statement:-
We, as Allies, have committed to prepare for, deter and defend against the coercive use of energy and other hybrid tactics by state and non-state actors. Any deliberate attack against Allies’ critical infrastructure would be met with a united and determined response.
Meanwhile:-
"Certain state" = US no doubt according to Russia.
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Very very sad,
Trade very bad,
Have to shut the shop,
Chop chop chop.
Here's another one they like. Uyghur Muslim, off to the concentration camps with you.
Ah, FFS! Do you really think the President of the USA stands up in front of the world, tells them that he's going to "stop" NS2 (at a time when half of Europe was calling for it to be stopped), then months after NS2 is actually stopped, he randomly but secretly blows it up inside the Exclusive Economic Zone of an ally, where if he's found out, he risks completely destroying the entire cohesion of Western civilisation as we know it? Some basic critical thinking is required.
As expected Russia has just announced the four Ukrainian regions subject to the sham referendum are to be incorporated into Russia tomorrow.
There's surely enough anti environmentalist threads here?
There is an environmental cost and ultimately a cost to us all from this act of probable sabotage by Russia
Don't you understand; how can you be so completely selfish? This just means we need to double down and over achive in our CO2 mitigation to compensate for these bad people. Come on, if we all pull together, not heat our homes this winter, go cold turkey on using hot water, have the children put down humanely, and increase the carbon taxes by 4000%, we can do this; why, we can probably make up for at least the gas in 2km of that pipeline. I'll miss the kids, but it will be worth it to save the planet and look good.
And another one: Talk does not cook rice.
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Well, at least we can hope these 'brave soldiers' are by now rotting somewhere fertilizing Ukrainian soil.
I get your point but it is easier to do that in a free society and while Putin's Russia is much freerer and open and gentle compared to the Soviet Union the population there are so beat down it will take a lot.
That's not to say that they will not, in time.
They are a very tough people.
The Chinese were a great bunch of lads for the oul proverbs. They also said, "It is easy to open a shop - the hard part is keeping it open" and "guessing is cheap, but guessing wrong can be expensive."
Polish ambassador's interview on RTE radio 1.
https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22151034/
No problem. Apologies for the defensiveness then.
What we do know is that it was State actors, we know from the Danish that it was a very large explosion.
We know that Russia was never going to restore flow and Europe is now committed to not using Russian gas so a pipeline that would never be used again , Which is no longer being maintained a scheduled by Russia's Gazprom was blown up.
Who would benefit from targeting a now relic pipeline?
We'll learn more in time.
Which could totally happen... the war is spilling out so widely now, those former Soviet republics must be thinking they could be next. It's interesting to consider China right now, because if I have it right, they, unlike N.Korea and Syria have yet to recognize the annexations as legal. When the Russia duma declares it all signed, sealed and delivered next week, will Beijing still maintain its position on respecting and safeguarding the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries ? The international condemnation will surely be impossible to ignore.
To me it’s all the more reason to rise up. To stop what occurred over the 70 years repeating itself.
Wasn't referring to you, I was speaking generally. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Maybe re-read what I said before commenting on my confirmation bias. Especially the second sentence.
Wow that's grim. Really fucked up seeing a BTR opening up on a car at a minute and a half in. What were these lads actually thinking they were doing if not just massacring civilians?
Special sailing operation. Surprised it hasnt got more attention. Will be interesting to see how the "it had to be America" crowd will try and spin that one. That being said the whole situation is a shitshow and anyone here that "knows" with certainty who did it could do with relaxing a little bit and wait until the official investigation has released a report. Before that it's just pure speculation and shows how susceptible you are to your own confirmation bias. Something we all need to be aware of especially these days.
Lavrov a couple of weeks ago in UN:
If a country wants to be independent or join another country, we must respect that decision.
A couple of months from now, some eastern Russian state decides to join china or declares Independency..
Lavrov: (surprised Pikachu face)
I think this is from early in the war-
I like the proverb.
But I don't think USA did it for reasons that other posters have already outlined
They live in a society that had 70 years of communism.
Nearly every one of them will have had a grand parent or Uncle etc who was disappeared, never to be seen again, where the most innocent remark was enough to have you killed.
A friend of mine is married to a Russian, his Grandfathers were both disappeared.
And you expect people there to be in open revolt against a man who wants to return to the glory of the Soviet Union,roll back what openess there is in Russian society, while his troops fly the hammer and sickle on their tanks.
You can't blame them for laying low when they know what even voicing disagreement can mean.
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