Widening of the tax band and help for renters and bills are the main items by the looks of it.
How will this year's budget affect you?
This is a fair point.
I am against one-off rural houses, except for farmers.
But I am all for one-off houses in villages and towns.
There is plenty of land in most villages to allow the village to double its population.
By this I mean all within 1km of school, shops, etc.
Twitter and The Journal... I don't know exactly what you're on about, but if they're the 2 to look up to, the world is far more fecked than I thought.
I've no idea what I'm going to do with my extra €15 a week. Really not sure. Might be able to move out of home, surely that would be enough to show I can now pay bills and save for a mortgage!
Even when you're expecting to get ridden raw, it still hurts.
Ireland is not a high tax country.
We are a middling taxes country.
There is no such thing as a stealth tax.
All taxes are known and published.
Yes I do. Despite all the member s of the ”Ireland is shite” club on here , twitter and the The Journal the stand are of living here is very high and also improving
CB is a tax credit paid directly to the mother mainly. It's paid as such to reduce child poverty as much as possible.
What is a high earner. A couple with 70k, 100k, 150k or is it 200k togeather. These people receive the lest from the state and contribute the most. Means testing is largely discriminatory again PAYE workers. The higher earners will have to fund more of there children's education that other sectors. As well they will have to house and pay any nursing home charges themselves.
Norway is an outlier because of oil revenues. Would you prefer to live in the UK? Or France? Or Italy? Or Spain?
Irish people have a better quality of life than most countries bar the Scandanavians, but we so like to whinge.
No I don’t. I think that the issues with towns and cities are caused by many, many factors that have accumulated over decades. Many posters are happy to hop on their high horse about McMansions and not probe deeper. I have lived long enough in cities in Ireland to know how superior some who live in cities think they are over people living rurally.
There are definite negatives to living rurally and there are negatives to living in a city. Good planning and resources can bring back life to some very, very bleak towns and villages out there.
100% correct. Any decent-sized town in Ireland has property that can be renovated at much cheaper than the McMansions.
I just looked at Wexford and I found places like that in Enniscorty and Gorey as well as New Ross.
How about Tipperary?
https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-6-rossa-street-thurles-co-tipperary/4041787
A four-bed in Thurles for €55k.
A three-bed in Tipperary Town for 75k
Clonmel for 80k.
The thing is, people are willing to pay 150k for their McMansion site, but won't live cheaper in the town, and then complain that they can't get services.
Well if the media and economists say so then I take back everything I said...
not!
Others above compare ireland to some of the countries with even higher tax rates (take Denmark for example). If we were to make a ratio of the tax rates to public service/quality of life here - do you think we are getting a good deal compared to Denmark?
Do you think that the 'rural ireland', whatever that means nowadays, label makes you mysterious and wise ?
Yes it’s the most generous in the history of the state and is being viewed that way be media and economists. I really don’t get what you’re complaining about as you’ve not offered any alternatives or solid examples.
11bn is the additional spend compared to last year. Total budget would be more than 80bn
That's why I said "For some perspective" beforehand...
Are you one of those who think this is a generous budget then?
It's a bit hard to take you seriously when you link to Google Maps showing a wide open road with no traffic, it's a good straight stretch, with loads of room for overtaking.
Your McMansion comment is very dismissive and shows little understanding of life in rural Ireland.
Oh we understand rural Ireland plenty, don't you worry. You're not some mysterious tribe from the jungles of Borneo. And some of us holding this opinion were brought up rural btw.
The towns and villages in Ireland with the highest in-town and in-village dereliction and vacancy are overwhelmingly counties with the most permissive one-off housing 'planning' (or anti-planning) over the decades. I'm talking about places like Offaly, Galway, Tipperary, Clare.
Towns and villages abandonded from the 1970s onwards, which really accelerated in the 90s and early 2000s. Everyone gets their McMansion, the town and village dies on its arse.
Rural Ireland killed rural Ireland.
Drivers are certainly a challenge. The more people cycle, the safer cycling gets.
You should head over to Amsterdam and tell them how bikes for pensioners is not viable.
Lots of people cycle with kids on carriers or in cargo bikes or pull-along bikes. With traffic in Dublin dolng 9 kmph, third slowest city in the world iirc, it's a wonder people with busy lives have time to drive, cycling would be faster.
We certainly do need more creative thinking on public transport. Bus Connects is a great start in this direction.
One-off housing in Dublin has transport, water, sewage, broadband, education all available on the spot, unlike your McMansions up the back of every boreen. It's not up to the Councils to be facilitiating more and more McMansions.
No, the CSO did the detailed survey. It's called the Census, and it shows the large numbers of people using private cars for short journeys that would be easily walked or cycled.
What are your budget suggestions? Genuinely interested.
You won’t find that true across all villages and towns. There are some absolutely bleak town and villages out there in economic black spots and then there are others that are the opposite. Go drive through the towns and villages with high vacancy levels get out of the car and then come back and let us know if you would buy there or live there.
Our village hasn’t even had a shop in over a decade, but because it’s very commutable to lots of well paying jobs then any property that goes on the market gets bought. The only vacant properties in locality are practically derelict as the owners inherited them and left them rot.
Often these are smallish houses. The one you have highlighted is a three story. They are becoming popular with single people or older couples however renovation costs can make them as or more expensive as a new build
I think you need to and learn how budgets work. There is a tax surplus and that’s why they can spend extra money as they did.
They have spent an extra €11 bn and also put money into reserves without any borrowing which is a very wise decision.
Things you complain about like the children’s hospital are financed differently and over many years as a capital project so is treated differently. It is not taking 18% of this year’s budget as you imply.
Pretty incredible that 11 billion was spent on this years budget (despite the government bragging about a surplus tax take a few weeks ago)
For some perspective - the corporate tax take alone by the end of the year likely to be 20 billion
The mica redress for Donegal and Mayo in all likilihood will cost 3.6+ billion (33% of the budget. Remember though that this will save charlie Mcconalogue and Joe McHugh's seats so well worth it)
The children's hospital 2+ billion (18% of the budget)
How they can keep a straight face while giving this joke of a budget is beyond me. Just shows the influence of Prodigy Paschals upturned nose and matter-of-fact tone
Where are you going with in Europe "pretty much every country has lower taxes"
That's demonstrably not true. Average Irish worker is bang in the middle of the distribution in how they are taxed in the EU.
I'd be weary of going to America with how badly expensive their health insurance is.
ah another “Ireland is shite” merchant. Every country has “stealth” taxes (stupid phrase) as they are not hidden and services in Ireland are pretty good.
The point is that the redistribution of wealth and taxation in Ireland is better than the UK and that has been evidenced in the last week.
Wouldn't be my option but if young US states with low to 0 tax would be preferable. Within Europe pretty much every country has lower taxes and more efficient public spending. If the country has higher tax rates generally more services are provided for free.
Mandatory DNA bank.
The problem is - in rural Ireland your choice is a yellow-pack house in a housing estate tacked onto the edge of a village/small town with these rammed as many as possible into what was formerly a field.
If you want to stop one-off housing, you need councils to purchase and service proper sized sites in and around these villages/small towns where people can build their own style of house and be very close to services/employment.
In Dublin, folks were selling half their gardens for one-off housing and it was fine there.
Cycle this: https://goo.gl/maps/V4DXBTVvqSq6Y8pV8
with two articulated lorries - one using each lane. They can barely pass each other as it is. This is a strategic route from Galway to Rosslare Europort.
And you've carried out a detailed survey along every L, R, N and M route in the country to find this out, or is that just "lots of people, bladda bladda bladda" sounded good to make an unsubstantiated point?
