Well, no immediate impact - but methane is about 25 times more potent than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas.
Even when subs are hunting other subs it can take some time to pinpoint a target's position even after detection. Use of active sonar is often avoided as it also gives the target sub information about the one hunting it. It's not like the movies where you see the sub on a top-down-view radar screen. From an initial contact bearing, the target's course and speed and an approximation of depth is needed. This gradually becomes known through a slow process called Target Motion Analysis, but can be thrown off by the target changing course or speed. This process uses the target's changing bearings combined with such information as the targets propeller blade count, its acoustic signature etc.
The aim is to produce a "firing solution" which means an estimate of the target's position, course and speed that is accurate enough to allow the hunting vessel to shoot.
Well, how far must the similarity go? I don't think physical effects are the criteria for qualification as a Hitler. What matters is megalomania and how much evil a person is willing to commit. Putin has been murdering for longer than Hitler. It began with the Moscow Apartment Bombings, if not before and he has been murdering ever since- Russian apartment bombings - Wikipedia
Also, it seems Ukraine has become the new Lebensraum. I would judge these things in terms of the darkness of a person's mind.
If he goes nuclear there will likely be no more history books, historians or indeed anyone else to give him the historical classification.
He gets marks for longevity and of course for kleptomania. Kudos for confusing his enemies as well. Probably gets a passing grade for vindictiveness and paranoia, but not quite at the elite level.
Must try harder?
Kazakhstan risks Putin's wrath: Ex-Soviet ally vows to 'care' for Russians fleeing 'hopeless situation' in their homeland and reveals 100,000 have crossed border in the last six days
Only 100K? Ok, that is a lot. Looks like everything is going to plan.
When the understandable hysteria dies down, Putin will go into the history books as a vile but nevertheless Grade B dictator, up there with the likes of Assad, Hussein, Gaddafi, but still a long way from Hitler or Stalin.
If he goes nuclear I might revise that opinion
Good thread here to dismiss one of the many theories (an accident):-
Subs are not the easiest thing to detect, they often go undetected. Good article here on detecting subs:-
The reality is we don't know the what/who etc, anything otherwise is pure speculation, the only thing I will speculate on is it is no accident because three ruptures on two pipelines on the same day is one massive unlikely coincidence.
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People who compare Putin to Hitler need to brush up on their history. Putin is a menace but he is certainly no Hitler. That whole comparison just plays into that mind numbing rhetoric with lingo like "orcs" and "Nazis".
Just look at the situation over aircraft leasing and you see what terms in contracts mean to Russia.
Gas is cleaner than coal and oil. Germany wanted to shift to greener energy, so they closed coal plants (replaced with gas), build wind turbines (backed up with gas), and ultimately closed nuclear plants (replaced with gas). Their reliance on cheap gas was chosen due to it being a) cheap and b) cleaner than the rest. They were happy to shelve strategic assets like coal and nuclear plants in favour of imported russian gas, despite the former options being far easier to source and fuel.
The motivation was all climate related (nuclear is a strange green-party thing), basically boiled down to gas being cleaner than other fossil fuels.
Thats one way to save the planet!
Maybe Putin is an environmentalist after all
The pipe line explosions are obviously Russian. Putin was known to have little/no fear of consequences in his spy days, they thought he was reckless as a result.
From his perspective this was a no brainer - Europe wasn't buying his gas any time soon, well not likely in his remaining lifetime anyhow so how could he use that to his advantage? ..
Blow up the pipes, no loss of revenue to Russia, but it would show he could blow up other stuff too which might weaken the western UKR coalition. He is banking on EU countries to be get fearful of communication and other lines being cut leading to chaos in the mid winter and demanding that UKR bend the knee, glorious victory to Tsar Putin!
Indeed. Every cloud.... even mushroom clouds...
Peterson said there's a bit of both Stalin and Hitler in all of us. Putin is a mass-murderer but I don't think even he would go as far as exterminating an ethnic or religious group. There are no Treblinka-type gas chambers in Russia.
On the plus side, we might all be dead in a nuclear holocaust by this day week, so keep the chin up.
The environmental damage of this whole war must be absolutely horrendous, that often crosses my mind when I see all these tanks lying in water or munitions dumps exploding in all directions. Yet another of very many sad aspects
But the fact that the West still used the oil and gas that they bought from Russia means that the carbon emissions are still coming from the West. Therefore, the argument that buying the fuel from Russia absolves the West of responsibility for carbon emissions is ridiculous.
I suppose Gazprom could now argue in court that they can't honour contracts due damage which they have no control over, rather than the fact that it was manually shut down which would be a breach of the contract.
19 votes from the two voter turnout accounted for a 99% yes vote.
Sounds about right based on Russian sham voting logic anyway
Either NATO are incredibly incompetent to not detect any russian activity around the pipelines (which run through Danish and Swedish territory) despite the massive amount of aircraft and boats in the Baltics keeping an eye on the russians, or...
Again it all comes back to the question - who has the most to gain from EU having 2 less gas pipelines to Russia? A competitor in the gas market perhaps?
Yeah, who knows what the future will bring. A lot of unknowables
Why would one go from "I can switch this on and off" to "it's now permanently off and I have no control over it"?
The pipeline damage is a real puzzler.
Is it detrimental or advantageous to Russia?
Detrimental I think, because it plays against the bargaining chip of "maybe we'll turn the gas back on".
It isn't Russia making a statement either because it's not a statement, it was done clandestinely, not publicly.
So, was it a military submarine operation by some nation other than Russia?
An incentive to forget Russian gas for a long time?
I'm not sure the point your trying to make which has nothing to do with what you stated that no gas was flowing to Europe from Russia and that there was only one leak.
That asides, it seems that Twitter is divided on blaming either Russia or the US.
We call it "moving window error"
One assumes that the 1% has been shot and tossed into a mass grave?
Three separate ruptures in two pipes is not a coincidence.
Anyone want to guess how high a flame you would get if The gas taps were fully opened and someone was careless enough to light it?
For marine life in the immediate vicinity theres a risk yes, but the spread is not like oil or other pollutants, methane rises up and into the atmosphere by and large once it reaches the surface. It does not persist in the ocean unless the leak continues indefinitely - it will rise to surface and then into the atmostphere.
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