You said these people had the means to change their society and they chose not to. So you implied exactly that: anyone being sent off to war only has themselves to blame.
On the level of broad Russian society, I agree. Change has to come from within. But I do not think a few thousand people in Dagestan have the power, even if they try, to effect the kind of change that's required.
Putin is,
A) Someone who is actively threatening to use nuclear weapons on a very flimsy pretext.
B) Someone who could be negotiated with to a reasonable compromise.
Maybe I'm just an old cynic, but these sound mutually exclusive to me.
Land.
I said they are paying the price for their inaction, I didn't say they are to blame.
Dagestan, from what I am seeing, it's beginning to get out of control there. This will spread.
How much land Russia already Said they wanted Ukraine essentially to a tiny piece of landlocked land beside Poland.
So how much are you going to give away with no guarantees he won't be back for more in 12 months time
Yeah, I'm sure there's some pretty vile specimens among them, like in all armies. I too have mixed feelings. But seeing the elites and the rich sending the poor to die in their wars is a great travesty that repeats itself over and over and is always infuriating.
And I still fear that as long as the elites in the big cities are spared this will not lead to serious civil unrest. I hope I'm wrong and that something changes
@greenpilot
If I interpreted your comment too harshly, apologies.
We'll see if the unrest spreads. Hopefully
Have you been following the news? The US has made it very clear to Russia that if a nuclear weapon goes off in Ukraine, Russia will be met with a catastrophic response and direct intervention from US forces. The US has pursued a policy of deliberate ambiguity on exactly what this would be, but one official was quoted as saying that Russia's entire Black Sea fleet would be sunk, for starters, and that's even if a 'tactical' nuke was used.
You say you don't understand how people think Putin will just give up. Well, I say that I don't understand how anyone could think that Putin could just do as he likes without blowback. Dictators like him are not superhumans immune to consequence. He acts up enough and there will be consequences to him from forces both inside and outside his country. He will not be able to continue his war because he will no longer be alive.
Well Ukraine won't be winning as such but they will expunge the Russians from their territory.
Russia is a busted flush and Putin is now on borrowed time. He won't be packing his bags and going anywhere. He will be retired out a window soon.
Not Dagestan.
But Nalchik this evening. Spreading North.
You make it sound like Zelensky is giving up some of his own land, like its some of his property or something.
Its not just about land. He would be abandoning Ukrainian people to live under Russian rule, they would be abandoned to what ever will Russia has with them.
I dont think that would be acceptable to many Ukrainians, and Zelensky would quickly lose support if he went for that. And I dont think Russia would be happy with just taking the Donbass regions and Crimea, they will want all the territory they currently hold and probably demand a lot more.
Neither are the west going to pack their bags and go. Putin has nothing to win. Even if he gets territory in Donbas, what then? Endless sanctions until he dies and Ukraine get Donbas back? As the poet said; The future is uncertain and the end is always near...
So given that they have lost more land in the last 4 months than they took in the first 2, and he has sat and watched the army he sent into Ukraine be minced why has he not already followed your sage and inspired vision?
The Putster just signed a decree making Edward Snowden a Russian citizen.
I wonder if he'll be mobilised!
How long does anyone think the latest orc's will last being sent to Ukraine,
I reckon another 50/60 thousand dead orcs by Christmas
Well-done Moldova, stripping citizenship of those who go to fight for Russia
I wouldn't be worried too much about Putin nuking Ukraine.
If the current trajectory of events keep following. He'll be nuking Russia itself to save himself.
Maybe the warnings on foreign forces trying to destroy the nuclear reactors in Russia itself in his speech at SCO were not edge Lord other forces distraction to his own but actually threats to his own to behave or else.
Nothing the slightest tricky about this. If the report is accurate , I welcome it. Those conscripts would otherwise have targeted and killed Ukrainians.
Only a matter of time before it hits critical mass and if Putin reacts like every other dictator has in situations like this he will only accelerate his regimes demise.
They can only do that if the person has another citizenship. You cannot leave a person stateless under international law
They seem to be directly Targetting transitarins who hold both Moldova and Russian citizenship.
They wouldn't be stateless just Russian
Speaking of which, there were reports earlier of small arms fire in Mariupol, coming from the tik tokers area. Were they shooting at each other or Russians? Either would please me.
I don't believe in shooting people...
But we should nuke , London and any major cities in Europe
Their readiness to mention bodily harm and shooting people seems ridiculous to us in the West. It does seem like a Mitchell and Webb comedy sketch.
Or their shooting at traffic lights, signs or pretending to be in battle shooting one of their "cool" tiktoks videos.
More likely their celebrating one of them marrying a goat 🐐
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NordStream 2 has apparently been sabotaged.
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