I was half poking fun at the original post... not really seeing anything in it myself, just one of those things.
geolocated just west of Lysychansk Ukrainian forces freely moving around not sounds of gunfire or heavy artillery.
Another day another Ukrainian town return to the fold .
The only one saying otherwise is graham Phillips which may explain where some are getting their information about what and where.
As we saw last week,oh the Ukrainans couldn't be there because the russian propagandist made a video possibly weeks ago showing he was there..
Would be great if the Russians indeed cannot.
That's some statement
'I don't have any problem with nazis'
Seriously?
You can be against Neo Nazis and Russian aggression at the same time. This isn't some sports team your supporting
I don't have any problem with nazis in Ukraine because nazism began there as a reaction to Russian aggression. It is very much a case of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'.
British intelligence says the Russians might not be able to withstand constant attrition in E. Ukraine.
A sideways Z with a strike through it.... so that's where Aduf Putton got his Z nation idea from. Well, I'll be a flying banana!!!
I feel that there's going to be plenty "Fog of War" moments in a lot of the rumors and reporting of Ukrainian advances. The front-lines shown currently in the war tracking sites might be intentionally old data, and my hope is Ukraine are sharp enough to manipulate Russian tactics with misinformation of their own.
Like others here, I'd like to learn of Ukrainian advances sooner, but frustrating as it is I expect that we'll keep getting waves of no movement reported and the sudden advances forward many hours / days after the fact. My guess is that the Russian signals intelligance is piss-poor and little better than what we here on Boards can gleen from the available data. If we're blind to the real situation, then hopefully they are too, and that is no bad thing.
Or it's just another go Ukraine but wait ukraine are losing.....
Hmmmm I wonder
It's regularly been mentioned on this thread and elsewhere
Looks like this was bollocks. Seems like there has been a lot of false news about Ukraine success in the last week.
Why is that so hard for some people to accept?
Back in spring all the talk was of Putin being terminally ill/having Parkinson's/having suffered a stroke. Then it all stopped. Now for some reason it's starting again. Who knows, time will tell....
Maybe it is a case of "If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth".
If only the claimant could show screenshots of these symbols and explain their claimed association - shouldn't be too difficult if vehicles are covered in such symbols.
Yet they have failed to show any substance to their claim and merely repeat it ad nauseum. I wonder why. 🙄
Its not like they had the decals guy come out and decorate the tanks, it was painted on with a brush. They should have had the battalions SJW come and inspect it prior to putting it back in service.
(not aimed at you btw, just the absurdity of the entire conversation)
Especially in the context 'bad for Ukrainian PR.' As far as I can tell, Ukraine is doing very well 'PR'-wise outside of the RuSSian state media. Now, maybe there's where this 'bad for PR' idea came from, but Ukraine's winning the PR war, and their military has been tooling around with crosses painted on things for awhile.
Don’t be trying to make an issue out of nothing - there is an extremely serious war going on
Absolutely, both things can be true at the same time.
For the record, the split straight cross is pretty much identical to the national identification marking of German armored vehicles in WW2 (Balkenkreuz). The Tatzenkreutz found on today’s vehicles and aircraft is a post-war development.
Thats the vehicle historian in me speaking. The current affairs me would observe that there are only so many ways one can draw a cross, especially on a vehicle equipped with ERA bricks, so if it looks similar to a WW2 marking, who cares?
I mean the Russians are as bad as Nazis so it's all moot anyway. Russians Nazis, what's the difference?
And why would they need to care about Russian PR? The Russians are at the mercy of 100% state controlled propaganda, they will all be receiving the same message as mandated by their dictator. So forget pr, all that can be done is pressure, military and economic, grind them down, the west can do this for 50 years with sanctions, can Russia?
No they don't for most part ,as pointed out by a American ,you have neo Nazis in the US military and this has been proven,
Does that make the US military far right Nazis .
No
Just as a minority in Ukraine may have extremist views it doesn't make the whole of Ukraine neo Nazis.
Some media have claimed even in the videos posted as some kind of Nazi militia, there not they are full time Ukrainian military under the control of the Ukrainans,they literally single handedly defended Mariupol against the Russian military 8 years ago,
Ukrainans defending Ukraine against foreign invaders ,
Article from June speculating how theft of grain fitted in with the Russian military.
Watch out for the painted cross.
The Russian public will appreciate this.
Russians seem to be having a bad time. Here's a translated intercepted call.
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1571603154248007690
Good progress, but in itself not a front-shattering advance like last week. Bilohorivka would be about 3km behind the current front lines.
Some of the Twitterati have geolocated a building in the vid to 48.9198053, 38.2522142
https://liveuamap.com/
The russians will have a field day over anything.
At this point, we shouldn't really be worrying about their feelings.
One factor in favour of being able to capture Lysychansk quickly is that.....well, there's actually not much of it left after the Russians reduced it to rubble with their artillery prior to taking it during the summer. Same goes for Sievierdonetsk.
The war has already undergone a period of grinding attrition through most of the Summer as Russia attempted to shell its way across the Donbas. If neither side collapses, it's likely that we'll see more periods of it if forces attempt to dig in to try and hold what they have. It's not simply a case of Ukraine deciding not to play that game - they had the intelligence and tactical agility to exploit a relatively weakly defended area of Russian occupation and did so quite ably. In places more heavily defended, it's always going to be that much more of a slog.
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There is video evidence of Ukrainian troops in the village of Bilohorivka. That's only 2km from Lysychansk.
Cleary that's in the daytime so was likely recorded many hours ago. It's not inconceivable that they have taken Lysychansk but it still seems like a big leap (unless the Russians didn't even put up a fight). Hopefully some confirmation will come out for sure by tomorrow morning.
Western medias reporting was different before the war
Ukraine has a far right problem and Russia is wrong for their illegal invasion.
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