So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
Non lycra-wearing, wicker basket in front, plastic child seat on the backer. :)
That'll never work as an acronym
So just a 'cyclist', then.
Still no update from @Larbre34 on his guarantee that the restriction would be removed by 1st September?
Not the usual type you see breaking the lights, yes.
There won’t be a reply but if there was, I’d imagine it would be something along the lines of the residents of a well-heeled area wouldn’t have any problems getting it changed. North Strand-ians are too poor to properly repel the invasion of the cyclist and retain the status quo of vehicular dominance. Not to put words in their mouth or anything.
Marino is pretty well heeled these days but I'd imagine the type of people who live there nowadays would be in favour of cycling infrastructure.
Yeah people in Marino/North Strand are so central that walking/cycling/busses is easier anyway. The changes have a bigger impact for those from further out that have been driving through that area each day for years.
Surely he’d have had a good idea of the demographics of the area before making his guarantee?
If you look on Facebook the locals complaining the most are the profiles of types in premiership football jerseys, taxi drivers etc, so I'd say the old school Ballybough local types would be against the works but not the newer well off residents. Once the works are finished they'll serve everyone well though is the thing.
He made it clear he didn't know his way to drive around the area, so clearly no idea of the demographic.
Some pretty bizarre and vaguely classist comments in the above. Let’s not fill the vacuum created by the absence of ‘balls up’ with idle speculation about who the opposition is and where it comes from.
It might have something to do with the fact that people actually live there. And the cycling lanes being put in mean the removal of the car parking sports on the other side of the road.
Don't get me wrong I am all for infrastructure improvement, indeed I believe it's the most important thing when managing a city/country. Whether DCC like it or not North Strand is a residential area. You can just take stuff away from people and provide no viable alternative.
This project though, seems very "Irish" (That will do/That'll be grand) planning and communication have been poor at best.
And the glaring issues which no one seems to be talking about are the choke points where road intersects with the railway lines and Royal Canal. The road is to narrow to accommodate all the required lanes (Turn for Nottingham St, Train Bridge over Amiens St)
Big infra projects mean knocking stuff down and compulsory buy orders on the areas surrounding the project. And while there was an effort made in the past to buy a few feet of people's gardens (Bus Connect), it actually turned out to be the worst thing they could have tried to do.
It's clearly as case of: Either buy the entire property and knock it down, or do nothing. As the That will do/That'll be grand half measures we're so used to here simply wont do. And this is what should have happened where you're talking about in North Strand. "Sure look, it'll be grand"
The restriction has actually been great, people are avoiding the area like the plague. You can fly through in the car now.
That being said there is Ying to the Yang M50 traffic seems very heavy since the restrictions went it.
Could be that school is back, Could be that Garth Brooks was on, on Friday. But it's taking a long time to traverse the M50 now
Just look how long it took to get to this stage. It'd take another decade at least if that had to start CPOing peoples homes. Not to mention the uplift in cost. People would go insane. They've already made it clear they don't want the new water main or improvements in other hidden infrastructure, if it inconveniences them in the slightest.
You're probably right. Although a lot of the "Homes" around there aren't really homes.
Perhaps it's the CPOing process that's busted.
Like if Mr Government came along and said we need to buy your whole house to expand a road/railway line and my house was worth €100k and they offered that +10/15% for the trouble I'd be out in a few months.
Either that or they need to get sneaky and planning long term and buy up everything they need as a when it comes to market. (Will take longer but will get done eventually)
That's fair but in reference to the C2CC project and bus stop locations, CPOs have nothing to do with it.
I believe it is simply poor planning. The decision to remove the bus stop at Preston Street demonstrates this clearly, given that Irish Rail have submitted planning for a new Connolly entrance right here.
On the North Strand road, there is more than ample spacing for a bus stop, path and cycleway. I don't accept that 3 parking spaces should take precedent over a bus stop for locals.
We'd have flying bikes at that stage, so no need to buy up all the properties.
I didn't know there was a new entrance going at Preston St. Is that in the Connolly Quarter project planning? Horrible street to have an entrance from, but maybe that'll change.
Removal of the bus stop is a new change though, isn't it? So DCC, Dublin bus, haven't consulted Irish Rail I presume.
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It's part of the Dart+ W / SW Railway Order. See attached PDF for Connolly. It's a fantastic plan to open up the station and improve access.
I always find it frustrating that you can see the Dart platform from Amiens Street but it takes forever to get there.
You can see in the image below, the platforms in Red, proposed new entrance in Blue and the bus stops in Purple.
They plan to remove the stop beside Preston Street, so you'll need to get a bus to main entrance of Connolly and walk all the way backwards. Or get off at the start of Amiens (Seville Place) and walk up to Preston Street.
I used to get dropped to the dart for school. You could see the train coming over the bridge, as I was getting out of the car at Buckingham St., and still be able to make it, using the old entrance there that's now converted to an office.
Yeah apparently that old stop was closed due to high anti social behaviour. The plans for the new entrance include opening up ALL the arches under the platforms which is a HUGE area. They will have some shops and cafes there.
If they execute it right it could be really cool and massively improve the connection to the platforms. Hence why I'm so annoyed that DCC are removing this bus stop. A huge oversight on their behalf.
...Although a lot of the "Homes" around there aren't really homes.
Eh, what?
Work hasn't even finished at the Alfie Byrne section, and already there's plans for a diversion for some other DCC works nearby. 🤣
Digging up the pipes probably uncovered more issues. One can only hope they're not digging up work they've just completed. Sadly it wouldn't surprise!
I'm also curious what is meant by "not really homes".....
The not really homes comment, to me, comes across as meaning the houses that have multiple bedsits in them. But maybe that's just my cynical thinking.
Well where did that map come from and what does it say they are working on? There have been ‘temporary’ sandbags all along that area for years, maybe something do do with that? Doesn’t look like anything to do with recently completed works.
That area hasn't been rederveloped. Current works only start at the "corner" of the water
No, it's to do work on the stormwater outfall there, to improve it. But it looks like they expect pedestrians and cyclists to share the footpath by the road.
https://consultation.dublincity.ie/environment/middle-wad-flood-alleviation-scheme-contract-e-clo-1/
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