What channel was this on I wonder? A minor regional channel or one with wide viewership? That's serious debate there and shows up the fault lines in thinking. The 'win at all costs and kill all the nazis' v the pragmatic 'we are losing this **** show and the ordinary locals don't want us'.
Easy criticize from a safe distance Toby, but if you were born in Russia, and come up through the system, this is what the end product is like. It' s all about the STATE ( throwback to its communist past ) anyone ( and I mean ANYONE ) wearing a state uniform has power over you. And no one bucks the state ( except those in Putin's circle ,,, but then again, they are the STATE ) I once witnessed a "situation" on the main street, a couple of teenagers were driving along, playing loud music and singing ( as kids do everywhere else) and they were pulled over by two cops. The kid's were treating it as a big joke, dancing around the two cops, and laughing at them. Then one of the kids took the cops cap off, and was dancing around wearing it. The cops mood changed, and got dirty. They started to manhandle the kids, and a crowd quickly gathered. One of the cops called the police station, and within a few minutes , cop cars were swarming around the street. They arrested the kids, and a few of the onlookers and took them away. And that's what life is like in Russia. Slightest sign of trouble is jumped on .
Oh look something is on fire outside of Moscow
50/50 if true I’d say. But, If the reinforced with best troops Kherson brigades surrender surely that’s the end of the war and Putin… surely!?
F the war! I want to learn more about that gorgeous redhead with barely any clothes in that wine yard 😂
Damned Russian propaganda is interesting
10 seconds to biggest defeat since ww2
1-2 minutes to “Soviets” holding the line elsewhere
5 minutes to a severe Slavic beauty posing with wine 🍷
Breathe being held... 😶
Could be just getting put out there to make other Russians within Kherson to think of doing the same assuming they follow Ukrainian press releases.
Think of Claire Daly… that should snap you out of it. Apologies in advance for the extreme measures!!!
"This week we celebrate international redheads day" 🤣
Ah crap I'm in trouble
^^^ that’s a terrible slur towards the Neanderthals 🤣
Thanks very much for this. Hysteria and desperation denied, being evidence of same. Soviet’s eh? 🙄
The Northern collapse has been a complete rout of Russian forces. Right back to the border. Be great if the same thing could be repeated down south.
Imagine the Ukrainian flag back over Mariupol again. That would be the death blow for Putin.
Something to actually compare when it comes to orc losses in ukraine.
Losses in Afghanistan after 10 years
To losses in Ukraine after 7 months
Someone got hands on Moskva maintenance report two weeks before sinking, above lists in detail the deficiencies, keep in mind this was the flagship of the navy the pride of the fleet, no wonder rest of their military is in such sad shape
Live is no good to most of us because we don’t speak Russian and the body language of let’s wipe Ukraine off the map and we are getting our arses kicked outrage is remarkably similar. 😃
They don't need to take it , they just need to be able to put down accurate artillery fire on the rail system and any military facilities...
That last line hit's hard. You can tell Mr propaganda wouldn't be happy with the idea of his own kids fighting and dying.
It's disgusting. And it's why I have no time for anyone who brainfarts the idea that Ukraine should negotiate or sue for peace or whatever. That barbarity is what's in store if Russians are allowed just come in and take what they want. The kind of person who thinks that Ukraine should sue for peace is the sort of person who would walk in on his wife being raped and wait until the rapist was done before offering him a cup of tea in the hope of some sloppy seconds later. It's depraved but that's what your Wallace and Daly types and even some posters here are advocating for.
The only solution to all this is for Russia to be sent back to its borders and isolated from the west until they learn to cop on. That would be unrealistic if not for the fact that they've been exposed as a paper tiger but here we are. They're a 12 man team, half of whom have football boots or hurls and the rest will throw away their jerseys and head to the pub at half time. Putin hollowed out the county and its institutions. They have nukes, sure, but so do India, Pakistan, North Korea and maybe soon, Iran. They have oil and gas but they sort of shat themselves there by accelerating the west's push for renewables. They've been shown not to be as major a world power as they were assumed to be. Their equipment is shíte and the countries buying it are going to know that now. I mean, by now I'm sure Xi must be wondering if he was fooled and might be made to look like a tit. Russia can't even properly invade a smaller country on its border, never mind project force around the world.
I won't be surprised if this whole misadventure makes a massive change to the global power structure in terms of the places below the West who, while docile, still pack a serious punch. Russia needs to know its place.
The only way Russia will become democratic is under the tutelage of outside countries like Japan after the second world war.
For all their bloviating about colonialism, modern Russia is the product of a centuries long colonial enterprise - from the Caucuses to the Pacific, from the Central Asian steppe to Crimea. All taken by sword and gunpowder and the depredations of the project ferried back to the pockets of the corpulent elite in Moscow.
Democracy, rule of law, the political and economic empowerment of the periphery at the (perceived) expense of the mollycoddled centre is a completely alien language to the securitati that currently have their fangs in the neck of the Russian state.
It has always been thus, and if they are to change for good, it will have to be under the close supervision of the West that has a switch in its hand and be willing and ready to use it.
Zelensky to his men !
Once they can't hind behind their weapons, their true colours appear, bright yellow
Horrible to think what has being happening to Ukrainians especially women and children by Russian soldiers in areas that have been under occupation for the last few months and liberated the last few days.
Russians are without doubt the biggest cowards on the planet, they can't even stand up to their own Government, they just play along like sheep, afraid to live, to be free, so how on earth were those same people expected to win a war, once it came down to close battles they fled like the sheep they are. Really weak minded people, sad. They can't even take on a midget like Putin, terrified of the lil man. Russia could be a free and beautiful country, but they need to rise up, and they just don't have it in them, they are like the people of North Korea, small, weak, terrified.
What happens in Ukraine is Ukraine's business and there's nothing excessively nationalistic about preserving one's national borders.
In any case, I thought this war was about the denazification of Ukraine?
There was.
And within 24 hours he reappeared in the media with a different opinion.
Too much of this echo chamber has left their army in the state it's in today .
Iirc, there was a guy early on in the war on russian tv that was making similarly unpopular remarks, but I could be wrong.
First time probably we've heard genuine rowing and arguing on one of these shows. The first guy is making some pertinent (and unwelcome) points about Russia's whole relationship with Ukraine.
Have a look at this .
And on Russian tv something is definitely changing a few months ago this would never have been aired
Have a read of this! We know most of it but when it's put together in one place...
Well that would be around 10% of the total MBT's in the British Army.
The Russians are falling apart, if the troops caught in Kherson are like the ones around Kharkiv I'd expect more good news.
Russia as a political and military power are a farce. I think the Ukrainians will sort out the demilitarisation of them, the rest of the world need to push for denuclearisation and they need to be kicked off the UN's security council.
But it doesn't
It just runs away like f@@k
Now that it's discussed we can get away from it for 3-4 days and get back to.the UA advances
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