Map by Russian Ministry of Defense showing their forces in Kharkiv region only east to Oskol river
And with that a lot of the chicken little brigade are quietening their worry bead rattle, the silent majority not being so silent
I'd assume to negotiate safety of any soldiers left behind and potential prisoner swops for captured troops?
It’s just a regurgitation/pivot of his earlier “no one cares about Ukraine anymore” position and the lazy “come winter Germans will throw eu under bus” meme
Turns out threatening civilised world and regularly committing unimaginable barbaric atrocities makes people sit up and pay attention.
Old information, they've already left, confirmed by the Russians.
I haven't seen reports of Kherson being liberated as of yet.
If it has not, then the goal would be to get russian forces out of the city to save lives and damage.
Unconfirmed reports that the Russians are retreating from almost all of Kahrkiv Oblast
The negotiations should be --
" This is what we won't do, if you accept that reparations are due for what you have done "
Retreating
Why would you negotiate for something thats already happened?
I'm not as old as you, it seems, but not as young as you think either :) Nor am I disputing the significance of the war. I'm merely saying that I think the original poster vastly overestimates general public interest in this conflict and I don't think that Irish or French or German children are going to know anything more about this war in 10 years time than they do about 9/11 or the Arab Spring today.
But we can touch in around 2030 and see how things look then. Maybe I'm just more cynical than you about people's attention spans and real interests
Yep, life always gives one options, they don't necessarily need be good ones 😄
No negotiations needed, just get the f**k out of there and don't come back.
What I also find interesting is the "new" posters that show up there, dish out some anecdote, then pop up with some veiled pro-RuSSia tripe here. Seems like a pretty regular occurrence
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That is the most toxic thread on this entire site. Populated by a small number of posters, who seem to post exclusively there and try to outdo each other with hearsay and anecdotes, painting Ukrainians refugees in a bad light. It's absolute cancer.
I believe there's some overlap there. Plus it's the most recent incarnation of the regularly occurring dole bash.
Would these be the same people who, by amazing coincidence, come to the same conclusions about all immigrants?
Maybe there have been occurrences of that nature. They may be taking advantage of the fact that no law enforcement exists in Ireland due to crime being hitherto unheard of.
*I'm not sniping at you, I know you're not one of that mob*
I'm not sure what age you are, but I'm guessing quite young. Today's younger generations have a poor grasp of the political and socio-economical effects of this war on the entire continent of Europe. When this war is over, and I'm old enough to have experienced the cold War and it's effects on every Western and European country, Europe as we know it, will have completely changed. Every country will continue to have a sizable Ukranian population, a European army will have formed. The US will have permanent bases all along the Baltics right down to Moldova. There will be the monumental efforts and skills required to rebuild Ukraine. Energy resources and requirements will have completely changed. Ireland will certainly not be Neutral. Our own armed forces will finally get the resources required to protect our own security without the need to rely on the UK. China's strategy towards the West and indeed Russia will change forever and will have far-reaching consequences on all of us. The nuclear proliferation agreement will be null and void and expect a stern reaction towards any nation that supported Russia in its endeavours, particularly India. Finally, Russia's global reach, for example in Syria ( of which I have 1st hand experience) will have evaporated and will destabilise the region once again, with Assad finding himself very exposed. I'm not even going to mention the Political situation in Russia after the war, which, with the potential removal of Putin, will have unfathomable consequences.
So bearing all the above in mind we are going to be living with the consequences of this war for a very, very long time.
Looks like Ol Putin's final days are dawning. Can't see him lasting too long more. What will become of him... might he do a Haudini and vanish into the air.
Seems like the mob over in the Ukrainians in Ireland megathread need to hear you. They're on about prostitution, crime and calling them scroungers there.
Russian SU-25's are attempting to provide Close Air Support to remaining Russian troops in Kharkiv region, but are being dissuaded by Ukranian Air defences
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1568717246813306880?s=20&t=B0H1mO7-spIhr31bPqTAsQ
8,370sq/km liberated
I think you underestimate the significance of this ill thought invasion. Covid will be remembered and this war, however it turns out will have an impact on us all for many years to come.
Looks like the entire Kharkiv region has been abandoned now.
Recent reaction in Russia clearly demonstrates how rotten their "society" is.
The burgeoning backlash against Putin has nothing to do with invasion, murder, rape & torture - those phuckers are upset, only because their nation is losing.
What a cower of shunts.
And on another point, the more Ukrainians that settle in this country, the better. They are an obvious asset to any nation, and indeed the world. Having watched many of them being interviewed, I've noticed that they are far more like us than they are their morally impoverished neighbours.
All quiet on Telegram today, but that is usually the case on a Sunday when fighting seems to hit a lull.
никакой паники - no panic.
At what point does a conscript with little to no training become more of a hindrance than a help? I know that Russian high command doesn't have a whole lot of compassion for the average grunt, nor a passing interest in even trying to portray that, but from a pure tactical standpoint, an untrained soldier would be so much more liable to do stupid/dangerous stuff that would unravel a greater military plan, from giving away a position, to committing friendly fire, to being killed and becoming more putrifying body on the battlefield, bringing disease to the still-living combatants.
There was a translated russian telegram post at the start of the counteroffensive in kherson which was soaked in sarcasm.
It was talking about 1000 Ukrainian troops killed and 100 tanks destroyed, again it was sarcasm. It went on to mention Russian soldiers retreating and what are they supposed to do, a group of 50 stay and get surrounded and call in an airstrike on their position to becomes heroes etc.... All sarcasm.
It was that single post that people read and assumed the kherson offensive was a disaster within hours of it starting.
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