When did it become the case the politicians could tell the electorate what they should think. Is it not the case politicians should represent the views and interests of those the represent.
If FF/FG had done a better job at managing the country over the years we mightn’t be in situation where people are experiencing a loss in the quality of life. We can see our services and infrastructures are stretched and struggling. You have to wonder how we will manage the challenges ahead when we consider things like energy, climate change, security of food our production.
"A welcoming country" she says.
These single men who are coming every day to Dublin airport must be having a right laugh, make up some bullsh1t story that there is no way of proving if its true or not and on the off chance a deportation order is signed sure just appeal it multiple times and let Paddy foot the bill.
McEntee can stick her head in the sand and ignore the growing anger people are feeling about this country being taken advantage of by these chancers but sooner or later immigration is a topic that will have to be discussed.
And its us that foot the bill for that bollix to take a case to the High Court.
Its happening, they're actually deporting someone. All it takes is multiple rape convictions at which time they will leave you to deport yourself and only then years later actually make you leave
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2022/09/09/convicted-rapist-fails-in-bid-to-halt-deportation-from-state/
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/serial-sex-attacker-chico-makamda-jailed-again-after-failing-to-leave-the-country/1337745322.html
You know what happens when you can't find a place in the school you want yet you can clearly see that 1/3 of them are not Europeans and another 1/3 are not Irish? Or when you see the same in the GP or AE waiting room? You can actually develop racist and xenophobic ideas, even when you didn't have any before. So that's why even me, an immigrant, want those gates shut right now and kept shut for a long time, until all this improves. Because Ireland is indeed full.
McEntee wants people to believe that any criticism of their open-door policy equates to racism. They think they are being smart here but They are being deliberately manipulating for a narrative. Here we see the marginalisation of those with genuine concerns, with the aim of shutting down discussion, suppressing any dissent of a delusional, near noon-existamt immigration policy that is impacting Irish Citizens who are in need of vital services and housing, all while being apart of a government failing those in most need of help.
She Stated that the sentiment is the view of the minority and yet 84% of the Ipsos poll in the IT said that they agreed with the statement: “There is a limit to the number of asylum seekers and refugees Ireland can cope with”, while 60% said they were concerned that “too many asylum seekers and refugees might come to Ireland”.......“There is a sentiment there, it is not one that I support and I think the vast majority of Irish people should have that view as well".....telling people what they should think? The arrogance. This is a dangerous statement when you factor in the convenient disclaimer on the DOJ site releating to the process in becoming an Irish citizen by naturalisation; “Applications are decided by the Minister for Justice who may exercise total discretion when granting citizenship”.
It makes you wonder where all this 'anti-asylum' or 'refugee' sentiment' is coming from when we have record level housing lists, homeless people, record hospital waiting lists. Irish people emmigrating. When they refuse to ecknowledge let alone debate the majors issues Ireland is facing. How can the government disregard peoples concerns and state that they will not place a cap on refugees and asylum seekers
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/justice-minister-helen-mcentee-says-anti-asylum-seeker-sentiment-has-emerged-in-ireland-among-minority-41971984.html
Just a day or two ago the Irish times was asking How Ireland’s asylum and refugee accommodation system reach breaking point.
It's very f*cking odd how during a crisis people are critical of the thing causing said crisis.
"Multiculturalism" is a nothingburger.
A sh1t sandwich it's more like it.
Ireland, like a lot of countries, is like the Titanic one minute after it hit the iceberg. For most of the people, everything is carrying on as per usual. They don't realise the consequences that have been set in motion by our inaction on the migration issue, but will not be fully appreciated until maybe 10-20 years time. Ireland is going to become like France or Belgium if we're lucky.
You have to laugh when you're country is in a total mess between school transport, places, teachers. Hospitals are full to capacity, can't cope and are cancelling urgent operations for children among a list of others and well where do you start about accommodation or trying to buy a house or our own homeless. Country has not got the resources to cater for the population and still they carry on adding more to it.
What does our government do.
Take a holiday for 6 weeks.
You couldn't make it up.
The Department of Justice released information in response to a Freedom of Information request the number of people in the last 5 years that have landed at Dublin Airport claiming asylum but could not provide a passport. The statistics show that up until the end of July 2022, 2,915 people have arrived in Dublin and failed to produce a passport or other documentation to confirm their identity. Of that number 2,232 have been allowed to claim asylum rather than being sent back to the safe country they flew in from, which is not the country they're claiming to be fleeing. The state only began recording this information in October 2021. The FOI shows that in 2018, 895 presented no documentation, then 1564 in 2019, and 712 in 2020. In 2021, 2083 presented with no documentation, and 535 claimed asylum. The vast majority here know these people destroyed their passports while on the flight to Dublin, how else would they be able to board the flight on the departure end. No doubt, that in another few years or so there will be orchestrated celebrations outside government buildings, looking like a three-ringed circus... photo ops, manufactured stories and talking points, and prepared signage funded by NGOs...well us.
It's clear that our country is going to take a nose dive into a downward spiral, with essential services at breaking point and the numbers applying for asylum, something has to snap. We cannot tolerate undocumented people, instead, we are enticing them and rewarding them. This is nothing new I know .It has been well documented in EU countries about the negative impact of illegals, a lot of innocent victims have had their lives taken from them etc but paddy will follow them down this path.
I would say they probably felt they could get away with it because of Ukraine, people will probably cut them a bit more slack because of it but anyone with a bit of sense could see that they were never going to achieve it even if Ukraine hadn't happened. They don't seem to have any cooperation with the local councils that they expected to bend over backwards to house people within 4 months and as far as I am aware no sites for the proposed new centres have been located.
I am kinda shocked they made such an admission. Up until now they appeared to have their heads stuck in the sand about this issue. The majority of the rest of us knew it was practically impossible when they first proposed the plan.
Era it will be fine. Another decade is not far away.
Who could have predicted this? Announce a pie in the sky plan to house all new arrivals in own door accommodation in 4 months in the midst of a housing crisis. Allow an unlimited number of Ukranians to come. Get flooded by applicants from other countries as well and blame the brits.
Yes the Irish market needs to be representative of the new demographics, especially the darker kind because no one cares if there aren't enough polish shops. So they need to have some illegal african and asian shops, deliveroo delivery only, with people that don't match the person on the account.
I don't. TBH I've always loved the outdoor shopping of the street trading setup, and one of the things I most enjoyed from living in Asia. It has so much character, and uniqueness to it, resisting the conformity that you see everywhere else.. The regulatory nature of most cities means that everything else becomes uniform, and quite boring.
You see I've travelled a lot, and cities are my favourite part of human civilisation. I don't really care about the countryside, hate climbing mountains, get bored with rural areas really quickly.. but cities? OH! the energy, the vibrant cultures, the convenience. Wonderful. The problem is that it's very easy to kill the uniqueness of individual cities, and make them the same as every other city nearby. Oh, the architecture might be different (although not as much as you might think), and the differences in language can help to keep some distinctiveness, but when cities are so regulated, they become very very similar to each other.
There was a push in China to become "healthy", where all the street food vendors were moved off the streets, leading to fixed designated zones. And as a result, the street food culture died a quick death, except in the outer suburbs which were less regulated. The same thing happened with street vendors, pushing them into designated areas. Now, the streets only have the designer shops, the low-quality supermarkets, etc. There's little that stands out as being unique to that particular city, except for particularly trashy expressions of tourism.
How many streets in Dublin are given over to street trading? I can't imagine there's many. And you would like to see it ended.. but what comes after? More expensive boutiques or tourist shops that you'll never avail of? Just another boring street, that conforms with everything else in the immediate area..
Nah. Keep Moore street the way it is. Let's retain some symbols of our own history that isn't a Museum.
Irish market is too Irish. Ffs. Why don’t they just give new arrivals prima nocte??
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2022/08/27/preference-for-ukrainian-refugees-leaves-asylum-seeker-accommodation-at-breaking-point/
"Sources said the State may soon be unable to fulfil its obligations under international law to provide shelter to asylum seekers, with one official raising the prospect of asylum seekers having to sleep rough if the situation does not improve, a move which would significantly worsen the already severe homelessness crisis.
A number of asylum seekers are already being temporarily housed in Defence Forces tents on the grounds of accommodation centres, while there have been reports of those in the centre in Citywest being forced to sleep on chairs.
Gardaí are also concerned the accommodation crisis is stirring up anger, and in some cases violence, as temporary accommodation centres are opened in communities at short notice with little or no public consultation.
Last week, asylum seekers had to be moved from a warehouse in Finglas after only three days following a number of violent incidents and threats."
"Local anger in these communities is being compounded by a perceived lack of prior consultation. Officials said in the past they had months to consult local communities, while now they only have weeks or even days due to pressure on the system."
🙄 what local communities did they consult months ahead, even before the Ukraine crisis, they haven't consulted communities for years.
I think Moore St is one of the dirtiest streets in the capital, and given it's location is an embarrassment to the city.
The whole street trading thing there should be scrapped and the place cleaned up, imo. I'd rather 'get my peaches' somewhere more hygienic.
I would be pretty shocked if it didn't come out that some movers and shakers in policy in Gremany say, weren't compromised by Russian money and influence.
Oh, I'm sure they were. Russia has been dabbling with Europe forever. I'm sure they have been involved in everything.. but I think there's a lot more going on, that just Russia. However, this environmentalist nonsense has been going on at the same time, with many very powerful people becoming advocates of it.
Yeah, but you could probably say the same about the US wanting Europe to stay weak, and dependent on their support. Russia plays in European politics, especially those of the Baltic states.
I find Russia to be the convenient scapegoat for the stupidity of European (and US) actions. There was years if not, decades of this environmental BS going on, and the European governments jumped in headfirst. Just think how much attention Greta received... <shudders>
Whenever I look at the stupidities happening in Europe, most of it can be allocated towards press conferences, talking up how virtuous they are. Whether it's immigration, aid to 3rd world nations, or the environment. Policies with very little awareness of what the consequences are going to be.. but plenty of ass-kissing praise in the process.
Sad to see how the island will soon be unrecognisable to some shortly.
The American tourists must get a queer shock when they see how Ireland is portrayed by bord failte and how it really is.
There are documented cases of russians helping far right (see Le Pen "loan") and I won't be a bit surprised if they weren't financing the illegal migration. This is what they do, it's called subversion, you can find on YouTube an interview with Yuri Bezmenoz, an ex KGB defector that explains it better than I could ever do.
I would be pretty shocked if it didn't come out that some movers and shakers in policy in Gremany say, weren't compromised by Russian money and influence. For all the anti EU stuff from some quarters I can comfortably say that one bunch that really don't like the EU and what it represents and that's putin's Mother Russia. A safe prosperous EU on his doorstep is a bigger threat than NATO in actual concrete terms.
As you noted China is looking shaky, America is divided(though it always has been to some degree. IMHO that's one of its base states), Russia is fooked economically and politically and likely militarily, the developing world is well, developing, Europe, the EU is in a very strong position worldwide and one of the biggest and most stable trading blocks in it.
You make a brash statement that the old and less educated are more likely to be anti EU .
That's what the stats consistently show, including the survey I linked. It is what it is.
The EU is good for economic reasons but in recent years it has meddled in countries sovereign laws . The EU court of justice and EU court of human rights .The case of Tony O Reilly and the use of mobile phone data which could see him released . The EU directive to take in unlimited number of Ukrainian refugees ,supporting Ukraine which has resulted in rising gas ,oil prices and inflation . There is also continued pressure to join a European army .The survey does not ask people about EU involvement in sovereign laws .
Regardless it and others show a broad support for the EU among member states. And as I said the local Irish laws and actions regarding extra EU migration have and had little to do with EU meddling. EG our jus solis law which no other EU state had kicked it off in the late 90's. We, the Irish government set the numbers and checks or lack of them and social welfare payments to Ukrainian refugees, not Brussels. We could have limited the numbers to say 10,000 and Brussels could go fish. And as I pointed out we only took 3500 Syrians in over a decade and they went through far more checks on entry and residency status, while other places in the EU took considerably more and where was this pressure from Brussels? Both were refugees, both conflicts involving Russia and the West, both with many millions internally and externally placed into Europe with many thousands being killed back home and near zero safe zones within Syria.
Brussels can put whatever pressure it likes for an EU army(which is minimal), but for us to join would likely require a referendum so the Irish electorate would have their say one way or the other(and I'd be willing to bet it would keep our military neutrality). Outside of some African states, India and vassals of Russia(China is fence sitting for her interests) the vast majority of the world support Ukraine against Russian invasion and I'd bet the farm if a vote was taken among member states that would hold up. The fault for rising energy prices and inflation is to be laid at the feet of Russia and covid fallout and those costs are going up worldwide and outside the EU. And personally I like the idea of EU justice and human rights courts as an extra arbiter of law, ditto for EU standards in many areas of our lives.
No, I'm not saying they are behind all that, but they are known to encourage this kind of ideology, even when is something small like using their bot network to help spreading the word. But there are documented accounts when they were behind anti fracking and anti nuclear lobby and astroturfing. Useful idiots aren't necessarily in direct contact with the vested interest they're unknowingly helping - that's why they're idiots.
Ohh quite possibly, it sounds like something only he could come out with alright. Could’ve had something to do with emissions maybe, never thought of horses emissions, but cows output a fair bit, 200kg of methane a year, belching, not farting -
https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2021/09/10/It-s-official-plant-based-diets-make-us-gassier-so-what-s-worse-for-the-planet-cow-or-human-farts?utm_source=copyright&utm_medium=OnSite&utm_campaign=copyright
Reminds me of a Lithuanian lad I used work with who used bring a Tupperware lunch box of boiled eggs to work every day. By afternoon he was fcuking toxic, you couldn’t go within 20 foot of him, and you didn’t dare call him names either cos he was built like a brick shìthouse, handy lad to know though 😂
If you're looking for someone to blame, blame the Greens, from all the EU. They were the useful idiots that led EU to have such a dangerous energy policy. And the reason we pay carbon tax..
So the personality cult of environmentalism with Greta Thunberg was due to Russian influence? Nah. I don't buy it. The greens, the ideologically driven, the fearful pushed Europe into embracing idiotic policies... passing it off on to Russia is simply too convenient. The EU and it's member states are responsible for what they allowed themselves to be led into.
Limerick is getting like that now. William Street is just full of phone repair shops and cheapo crap shops. Parnell Street feels like a foreign country when you walk down it sometimes. Plus they're building a 4th mosque in Limerick...
Ffs, maybe it's better to outsource the government, like every other public service?
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