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Nothing to do with MM, its not his decision. Yes he is party leader but it's a party decision
Look at this statement from 2020. Can't get a much stronger position than that
“We gave the party leader licence to speak to whoever he needs to speak to, with the exception of Sinn Féin,” Niall Collins, a senior Fianna Fáil politician, said as he left a party meeting, adding that it was fully behind that position.
The SF performance was on the cards for weeks, that is when opinion polls actually count, everyone knew it would be a revolt election and it was talked about before, during and after the election.
Look at the poll in Jan, nearly on the money with greens etc
P.S. look at how relevant the polls are 2 years out from an election? just a FYI in regards to all the posts about the current polls.
Didn't Michael Martin also say he wouldn't go into coalition with FG before the results of the last election?
All your doing at the minute is demonstrating MM is a proven liar.
When did MM say he would go into government with SF?
That's an incredible graph, and really shows how well this country has been doing. Unbelievable stuff, the whingers and the moaners won't be able to cope with explaining that away.
They won't explain. Go off on another tangent about something else.
The data in the graph is four years old. Where's the current data? It's a bit like saying Dublin won the All-Ireland in 2018. Has no relevance today.
So you want to throw out all the progress made between 1987 - 2018 in Ireland? We are told daily by people that 100 years of FF and FG has made Ireland a disgrace/kip etc etc
When you actually start to break it down we have seen massive progress in Ireland, as I always say yes we have problems, but we have also seen huge progress.
Our life expectancy has also increased massively over this period and loads of other numbers.
Trying to say it has no relevance???
This is a current affairs thread. I'd like to see the current data. I suspect there's a reason why it has been omitted.
It wouldn't be available yet, that is all.
If you believe the current data is different, produce it.
So it takes four years to produce?
Based on the tweet and the link provided in it the data was only updated earlier in the year. Maybe I am wrong?
Updated chart using @lisdata
of income growth and income inequality changes from 1987 to 2018. The 17 countries shown are those in @lisdata
for the endpoints (+/- 2 years) as well as CPI data from @OECD_Stat
to get real income. Ireland alone in bottom-right quadrant.
Graphs mean sfa when you can't house your family.
Really? so we should shut down the entire country and everyone should stop because of the housing crisis?
Or should we continue to work and continue to improve while trying to resolve it?
I know which option I am going with.
Probably belongs in the thread for the previous government so.
Who's trying to resolve it?
There have been two major events that have changed economic conditions in the last few years. The first is the Covid pandemic which saw lots of countries impacted with lockdowns and people not working. The second is the war in Ukraine that has caused a refugee crisis in Europe and impacted energy costs. To people who don't understand these things or who ignore them for party-political reasons, these historical graphs might seem impressive but the current economic conditions are different to those in 2018. Even FFG realises that there is a difference between pre-Covid and current economic conditions and that's driving a lot of the negotiations about what happens with the Budget.
Regards...jmcc
Can you explain how those events will have worked to increase income inequality in Ireland relative to other countries and decrease growth relative to other countries?
On the face of it, the measures we took during Covid to protect incomes will have further increased equality and we have also seen the best economic outcome from Covid, so I would be interested in your analysis and the factors you have identified to support your conclusion.
Just when everyone thought things couldn't get worse for FFG:
Has anyone told him that he's not the taoiseach?
Look at your latest electriciy or gas bill.
And? Relative to other countries?
We all like having a moan about living in Ireland and FG this and FF that, but how many of the moaners and whingers would swap life in Ireland for life in Eritrea or Ukraine? Or even most of our neighbours?
France.
France
In January, the French government forced the state-owned energy provider, Électricité de France (EDF), to cap wholesale price rises to 4% for a year, at a cost of €8.4bn (£7bn).
France had already announced a one-off €100 (£84) payment last year to 5.8 million households receiving energy vouchers. Since then, it has also reduced taxes on electricity.
According to Bruegel, a Brussels-based think tank, France is expected to spend €45bn (£38bn) to support people through the cost of living crisis.
Spain.
Spain
Spain has cut VAT on energy bills from 21% to 10%. A special tax on electricity has also been temporarily cut from 7% to 0.5%.
To pay for these tax cuts, Spain introduced a windfall tax on energy companies, which aims to raise €3bn (£2.5bn).
In April, the European Commission agreed a price cap for gas in Portugal and Spain - an average of €50 (£42) per megawatt-hour.
The price cap will last for one year and aims to halve gas bills for 40% of customers in the two countries.
When combined, Spain's measures are expected to cost about €27bn (£23bn).
Meanwhile in Ireland.
Electric Ireland has announced further increases to its residential electricity and gas bills from 1 October after increasing them in August.
The company said its electricity bills will increase by 26.7% and residential gas bills by 37.5% from next month.
You are aware the budget is coming up plus we did give get 200 euro per household earlier in year.
He is the leader of one of the parties in government, is he not allowed to have an opinion?
By the way he is 100% right and everything he says in the article is correct.
Even if the Kerry terminal gets planning it wil be doing nothing till 2030, hardly a great relief for the current electricity pricing.
Yes. But the poster asked this question.
I answered.
Really we are having a moan here about Covid, which affected the entire World and the Ukraine war which is also affecting the entire World
The numbers provided give an excellent view of the progress Ireland made over that period yet we still have people trying to find a fault with it.
Baffling carry on.
Also an awful insult to all the Irish people who worked hard and studied hard to make sure we did make progress. Total lack of respect to the people who have gone before us!!
I can tell you who isn't
In terms of who is:
#HousingForAll is one year old and it's making good progress.
Since the middle of 2021, almost 54,000 new homes have been either built (25,000) or commenced (28,450).
The number of homes purchased by Households has gone from a low of just under 25,699 in 2011 to 55,298 in 2021.
So the data was updated in March this year but it should be in a thread for the previous government which was shut down in Feb 2020?
Should it not be discussed now as the information is available now? not when it wasn't available?
Also the poster mentioned Ireland, to me it seems right to discuss on this thread. Not sure it would warrant a thread on its own:
If you scratch the surface and look globally Ireland is doing very well on many of the big issues.
On that, has this ever been sorted?
A round of applause doesn't pay the bills apparently.
You'd have admire the level of delusion which involves believing this crowd of clowns can solve the housing crisis,
when they can't even manage this
Article from June, it’s September now
Didn't someone link to a 4 year old graph earlier? You didn't seem too concerned about the timeline with that.
You can have your couple of months.
Have those workers been sorted yet do you know?
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