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Lazy effort op, don't do it again
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john123470
You make my point for me - divine plans and destinies are ethoses, is what the school has. Prejudices against the LDBTQ+ community is what Mr. Burke has.
What are you on about? Explain what makes the schools actions contradict the law.
Ya, you're off on a tangent... It really isn't as clever as you think it is...
This really isnt as revealing as you think at all. Religious schools have been dealing with this issue for a long time already. My friend came out over 10 years ago as a trans man in 5th year of an all girls school and was treated very respectfully by the Nuns.
This is the point I was making to the poster: the Christian religions have modernised and accepted the situation as - to quote the poster themselves - part of the "divinely revealed plan for the destiny of man". The indiividual practioners, though haven't, or we wouldn't ne having this discussion (although what the relationship between Mr Burke and CoI is, I don't know).
To be trabsphobic or homophobic in the name of Christianity, in this day and age, is to push yourself away from the authorities of said religion, unless said authorities want to be seen as hard liners.
If the CoI want as little attention to the situation as possible, they'll stay out of it altogether, as I'm sure they intend to.
Exactly. Religious schools have been quite welcoming of LGBT students for nearly 2 decades now through work with groups like BeLonG To. I dont think a lot of people in this thread realise how much schools and education have changed from over 20 years ago. This issue isnt something brand new that has never happened in an Irish school.
Perhaps they have adopted the ethos of "don't be a ****"?
Some very interesting replies here. Very simply the situation around ethos and the core beliefs of the many Christian churches and their deciding authorities has a bit more to it than you realise.
The solution for anyone who does not want to open that can of worms is to do exactly as the nuns did as one poster said. Or as many people in the thread said about manners. Simply roll with the situation. It suits a lot of vested interests and it’s undoubtedly the route that benefits the student most.
What worries me more about that extract is the misuse of apostrophes. If it came directly from the school then I think they need a new English teacher. “…the student’s and their parents’ wishes.”
Any word on if he's been picked up yet?
Which brings us full.circle: the ethos of the school is not nessecarily that of the CoI and even less to do with literal interpretations of old testament texts or Sodom and Gemorrah, as @deirdremf claimed.
A fad? Many indigenous cultures around the world have recognised that there are more than two genders, for literally millennia.
Clearly if it's a Christian school, Leviticus would have to apply.
The ethos of the school is CoI. You’ll find it stated thus on the admission policy:
2. “Characteristic spirit and general objectives of the school
Wilson’s Hospital School is a Church of Ireland co-educational post primary school with a Church of Ireland and Anglican ethos under the patronage of the of Archbishops and Bishops of the Church of Ireland.“
Facts matter. That said, a CoI ethos can be very much whatever you’re having yourself.
The interpretation of what Christians believe to be sacred scripture is an issue that fed into the very existence of Protestantism. Seeking to interpret the Bible for yourself is very much, as you do with Sodom etc, close to many Protestant groups approach. And that of Mr Burke.
The issue that has frightened some powers that be and Mr Burke may never get the chance to ventilate is that ethos might just insist on something contrary to the law of the land. I still maintain though, wrong hill.
Nope, that grammar is 100% correct. The student is singular but using they/them/their pronouns.
What the hell did he have against mixed fabric?!?!
That said, a CoI ethos can be very much whatever you’re having yourself.
QED
Leviticus forbids it, so...
And the idiot has been arrested. 🤣
Another act of performance art for his financiers.
LOL. “I’m right even when I’m wrong”.
you keep very vaguely hinting at very vague things and despite posters having seemingly addressed the vague points vaguely made......im still very vague on what you are saying here......
essentially you're being very vague and i dont think its helping your point
Well, we both are - were saying the same thing at this point. This is whatever the school itself is having.
That or you'll have to give sn ELI5 version of what the CoI's stance is and how they enforced the school.
You simply don’t get it which is fine. The problem for Mr Burke is it may not get into play.
the question must surely now arise: when will he get a regular opinion column in the irish times?
To be fair , given the general make-up of the school system in Ireland , Protestant church affiliated schools have had a tendency to act as "Non-Catholic" schools in practice which in turn leads to a more laissez faire approach to things given that they typically have a fairly broad multi-faith student body.
We'll see - either i get the ELI5 version, or they've talked themselves into a corner and is now refusing to recognise the walls.
Twitter for the next while!
An atheist friend tells the story of calling to the office of a well-known non-Catholic school to apply for a place for their kid. Principal brought them in and started filling in the form with them there and then. Notices a hesitation at the 'Religion?' question, and says "I'll just put down Christian, will I? Covers a multitude!"
How old is this guy? I wonder did he become a teacher just to die on this hill when the opportunity arose.
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