Latest Rybar update claims that the fighting is still ongoing and that Ukraine has not given up and has made fresh advances. It's obviously a pro-Russia account so taken with a lot of salt, but it is telling that they admit that this isn't over yet.
I was listening to the latest "War on the Rocks" podcast and they made the point that given how many Russian troops there are west of the Dniepr the further the Ukrainians push into the territory the more compacted the Russians will become and therefore the more fierce the fighting. They also said that this is likely to be a long drawn out battle.
Depends who the partisans are. I was assuming Ukrainian.
Some people here think you are a Putin bot for even saying such a thing.
Could it be that the Ukrainians trained birds to hypnotize Russian humanitarian personnel so they would tilt the shells in the Russian direction? No?
You’re going to provide evidence it’s the highest ever blood donations?
Lads they are attacking positions that have been in enemy hands for months. The enemy has a lot of artillery and rockets. They will take losses, that's to be expected. It's terrible but it's reality and they believe it's worth the sacrifice , so god speed to them.
That analogy with Warsaw 1944 is totally misplaced. Think about it.
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Try archive.ph if its behind a paywall.
As long as it doesn't turn out like Warsaw in August 1944.
Don't be so stupid. Ukraine or any sensible army wouldn't be giving real-time info about what town has been just liberated especially when there's a media blackout.
We've heard so many stories of Russian soldiers not being able to communicate with higher ups etc.... No reason to think that's not still the case. You never show your hand to the enemy and you always keep them second guessing.
The Ukrainians are advancing, there will be casualties, there always is. The civilians are doing their part by donating supplies and blood.
Your post implied that it was just the bog-standard regional blood donations same as we get in Ireland - that is not the case. I never said anything about the offensive definitively going badly or not.
@timmyntc There are videos of queues spilling onto the streets of people in line to give blood over the last 2 days in Mykolaiv and Odessa..
Can you post the videos if you get a chance?
Blood drive in Mykolaiv.
You responded to my post to Francis with your post... why else did you quote me?
so, you're going from defending a post saying blood donations are a sign of the offensive going badly to... it being simply good planning?
Care to point out where I did this?
If they get close enough to Kherson itself, the whole city is going to erupt with Partisan warfare. It will be like Paris in Aug44 all over again.
I was thinking perhaps it was a Framework laptop, which my daughter is getting, which is modular and you buy the bits you want and self assemble, but the ports on the side don't match, so I'd guess it's an older Apple product, perhaps bought as parts on ebay from several dead ones and assembled in Belorus
"Blood donations have not been at this level of demand before - which means they either anticipate a large amount needed, or they already need a lot of blood. Which means casualties. To deny that there will be a high level of casualties even if they are successful is just plain stupid."
That's impressive almost real time knowledge re the Ukraine health system. Can you supply for us with the evidence of this?
The italic bit - so, you're going from defending a post saying blood donations are a sign of the offensive going badly to... it being simply good planning?
Gain some territory and get the long range missiles to blast Russian positions with the help of those US super satellites
Been through Twitter and elsewhere and can't find videos of huge amount of people donating blood anywhere hardly a mention,
Seen people queuing for aid packages and people enjoying the night life in Odessa,a war going on and still people are going for meals and drinks
The WSJ is article is behind a paywall,
Blood donations have not been at this level of demand before - which means they either anticipate a large amount needed, or they already need a lot of blood. Which means casualties. To deny that there will be a high level of casualties even if they are successful is just plain stupid.
As you said it's only updating when they announce a town/village liberated. They certainly won't be doing that within hours of them liberating it as the Russians would just shell it.
The Russians surely know what towns theyve lost - they would have had a presence there until they didnt. Its not like a game of minesweeper 🤣
I wouldn't be relying on a map update when there's a media blackout and the Ukrainian's are staying tight lipped. As you said it's only updating when they announce a town/village liberated. They certainly won't be doing that within hours of them liberating it as the Russians would just shell it.
Maybe positive news soon:
Sounds like maybe Ukraine is trying to strecth the frontline and make several fronts and take advantage of a thinner defence line to break trough.
Combined with continuing attacks on russian supply lines to weaken the russian defences and moral.
Erm, just checking... you do realise Russia has invaded Ukraine and there's a war on... Blood donation drives in such a circumstances IS the norm. A line of people giving blood is to be expected. To say this is proof of the Ukraine offensive going badly is beneath even some Putinbots.
"Even if it goes well there will be significant losses."
Sadly, so. The alternative?
I’m sure those who were blaming Ukraine for attacking the NPP will be able to demonstrate using physics how this can be possible.
There are videos of queues spilling onto the streets of people in line to give blood over the last 2 days in Mykolaiv and Odessa. Thats nothing like a normal call of blood donation.
The head of the intensive-care unit where some of the soldiers were being treated said the military warned him of the offensive a week in advance, spurring hopes of imminent victories.
“But when they started bringing in such a large number of wounded, then, honestly, I felt sorry for them and I started wondering if this was worth doing at such a cost,” said the doctor. “I don’t know. There’s no right answer here.”
Ukrainian officials and military analysts have said that Ukrainian losses, even if the offensive is successful, could be high as they are assaulting an entrenched enemy with significant firepower that can quickly chew up troops.
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The doctor said he spends some nights on a small couch in his office after more than half his staff stopped coming to work following a Russian rocket attack on the hospital in August. He said he felt on the verge of a breakdown as he has dealt with more soldiers than at any time since the first weeks of the war.
Even if it goes well there will be significant losses.
And that's the end of it .
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