Basing it off of 3 bales per 50 dairy cows-ish. Would finishing cattle eat as much? Not sure.
10 bales would feed 20 cattle/ bale minimum with no ration unless bales were sub 20 DM. If anyway decent 30ish+ DM a bale would feed 30 year and a half. I wonder was it the lads doing it that priced the bales at 50/ bale seems expensive I be costing them this year at 36-37 average.
He be feeding costs 1.25 tons of ration as well every day for 500 euro unless he is buying lucky bags. 1250 kgs is 6 kgs per day for 200 cattle. If he feeding 6kgs/ day of ration a bale would do 30+ finishing cattle ( I reckon nearer 40 unless it's elephants he is feeding)
Feeding 3 kgs and silage if I was doing it would cost me about 2.6/ head, 6kgs and silage would be sub 3.4/ day with the amount of silage you would save
Any cow prices?
That pretty much the exact point I was making, without being told the head count we’re only guessing.
If I was asked to put a figure on it I’d say somewhere along the lines of 150 finishers and 150 stores being fed based on the €1000 a day and 10 bales.
The 150 finishing cattle would want to be on 8-9 kgs per day to be eating 1.25 tons per day. In hot weather like this they be eating virtually no silage.
Even at that the bale of silage sens to be over costs at 10/ bale at least. Feeding 8 kgs of ration per day would mean a bale (33%dm) would do 45 ish bullocks per day. I say 180-200 of finishing cattle and the same in year and a half cattle
The store cattle could be getting 2-3kgs a day too if there’s no grass so the finishers would be on about 5kgs then.
Are the bales supplementing grass or is there no grass at all?
Have some of the cattle been put back into sheds?
Is silage wet or dry? High quality or poor?
There’s an infinite amount of scenarios possible, anything we’re saying is only irrelevant guesswork without a head count.
Rang local independent lad today, 4.50 for Os, they’ll take them Friday
Ya I agree there is a lot of different scenarios. However it's had to see less than 350-400 cattle being involved and if some grass is added to the equation it's 500++
I just heard about the guy feeding. Don't know any details; may hear later.
I see where the average beef carcasse has dropped 48.5kgs since 2020. It dropped 6.8kgs this year while it dropped nearly 42kgs beyween 2020 and 2021. Some of this is the drop in productions of young bulls and more from the drop in numbers of sucklers. Maybe its one of the reasons that we no longer see a glut of cattle in the autumn. Thae average carcasse weight is now 323kgs down from 329kgs in 2021 and 371.5kgs in 2020. when you take boning out rates into consideration its probably a drop in 15+% in production.. I wonder when they bring in the sub 24 month slaughter premia will we see another 15-20kgs chopped off that.
They shouldn't be let bring in a sub 24 month premium imo
Or at least they shouldn't be let even pretend it has anything to do with reducing Methane/CO2 etc.........
I’d say it’ll be even lower this year. Anytime I was in the factory this spring it was full of light heifers and bullocks with little or no feeding in them.
Another reason for the low weights this past few years is the push to get dairy calf to beef gone before the second winter. Most of these if Angus or wh would hardly average anywhere near 300kg carcass weight.
Any updates on prices? Are people getting any flat prices when dealing with Hereford or angus cattle?
Killed 5 HEx Monday. €4.80 base
Where about's was this? Getting quoted €4.75 on the grid at the moment.
Charleville.
Our factory down here is 475 too.
Got €4.85 for heifers today.
I bought a batch of Herefords bullocks nice batch except for one thing one is bred from a Jersey Cow what mature liveweight can I expect from this Bullock ? He is being fed Meal but it appears to be having no impact on him. His comrades are on the same feeding and have raced ahead with thrive.
Could expect anything. I had one Her/Jer this year, bought as a calf 2020. Good weight, grade and fat score. Made about €1650 under 30 mths.
Bullocks 4.80 south east, anyone hear of better or flat prices?
Trying hard to pull Bullocks back to 4.75 south east
Lad that carrys my stock to factory can't get cattle of his own killed this week and talks of a pull to €4.70
Have you some to go? If so are you finding it difficult to get them in?
They are probably too busy killing 490+ kgg Friesian bullocks. I was watching the marts for the last few weeks. Those fleshy friesian's from about 480 kgs up are making 1k+, mostly they are selling around 2.1-2.3/ kg. Yes if the are 460 kgs they struggle to beat 850 euro.
I was talking to a lad today and he says they are all being slaughtered by the processors along with any AA they can buy around that weight as well
What’s the idea of this? To back up cattle for a few weeks to hold supplies and try to get lads to panic sell?
It was the same in the late spring/ early summer with the cows. They will kill anything that suits. They killed all the cows in May/ June that should be being slaughtered now. They have to replace them with something
They’ll have to run out at some stage so.
Killed 5 last week. Next batch of 9 not ready to go for about 3-4 weeks. Could be back another 10c by then.
I am surprised the price is holding at all. A lot of the country didn’t grow much grass at all in July and August surely fellas are eager to ship stock out?
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