There are no big nor wee infractions there are just infractions. It's not a traction thing, it's a standards thing and they should all get it right first time.
Bang on,theres no excuse for it here or with troy
The man should resign,we don't need landlords in the dail.....turkeys don't vote for Xmas, landlords won't vote to sort a decade long housing crisis
True but thats a fairly challenging document for these lads to have to fill out (correctly)
Bloody hell if you didn't have landlords in the Dail the place would be virtually empty
The biggest property owner in the Dail is Sinn Fein
Should we throw them out of the Dail? or is it ok for a political parties?
Should all political parties be made to release the actual details of their parties, shadow companies and full property portfolio?
Why run after the TD, start at the top and then work down to TD's
Are sinn fein properties not just constituency offices though🧐,they are operating out of some with north of 30 or 40 years.....would seem reasonable to me a party owning them,
given a push was made to exclude em from renting commercial space,to curtail their rise??
Release the details ta fcuk....then ban landlords whom rent from dail,or force em to forfeit property/income from it to a blind trust/state for duration of their time in public service
It's probably to be expected that Sinn Fein would be the biggest property owner in the Dail, they are a 32 county party so the bigger the area you cover the more likely you are to have/need working properties.
If they are just offices why do Sinn Fein hide them?
More interesting would be to find out what happened to this investigation.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/police-raid-ira-s-ps30m-property-portfolio-317813.html
I expect Sinn Fein will put a lot of small businesses out of business due to making labour prohibitively expensive.
It's impossible to hide their office on the Falls Road, it's a big redbrick building
The offices in dungarvan and above on shortcourse painted green with a massive sinn fein sticker on the door is impossible to find🤪
Some lads love a conspiracy,or have simply never left their house it seems
Would you think it would be politically astute of Sinn Fein to put small businesses out of business, or maybe Sinn Fein are not politically astute.
Sinn Fein will destroy Ireland for the average person who wants to go out, earn a living, have a family and enjoy life.
It will be all about trying to create spilts in Ireland like in Northern Ireland with the nationlist v unionist rubbish they push daily.
In Rep it will be the everyone v "da rich". Who "da rich" are changes on a daily basis depending on who you talk to in Sinn Fein or their supporters. Today it is landlord, a lot of the time it is anyone who has bought a house. Tomorrow it will be anyone with a job, then it will be anyone with a job over 100k. Then it will be anyone with a job over 80k etc......
It's already available all over the web to see what they are doing.
They are going to try and create some kind of socialist paradise which I imagine is financially impossible and hence ruin the country. I'm no fan of any political party but anybody who thinks SF is going to make our ills better is being supremely optimistic. They might make things better for some but at what cost to others.
This is what political parties do, make things better for some but at a cost to others, presumably you can see some examples of this if you look around you. If they try to create a socialist paradise where they force all small bussinesses out of business, and send all the FDIs scurrying (the favourite of the scaremongerers) where will they get the money to fund this socialist paradise, there will be no FDIs, no small businesses, all the wealth will have flown, how will they fund this socialist utopia
Have a look at Northern Ireland and see what they have done in 24 years since the GFA.
The whole place is held together by the english government ploughing money and jobs into Northern Ireland. 25- 30% of the Work force in the public sector and do you know why? well because it is the lowest cost region in the UK because of the disaster SF and DUP etc have made of it.
Who are the big employers in the North, it was Bombardier but bought out by Spirit, tell me how is that going for the people working for them?
This is the biggest employers in the North in private sector
Tesco
Moy Park
ASDA
Spirit AeroSystems4
Four Seasons
Henderson Group
Teleperformance
BT2
Marks & Spencer
Almac
And....
Not to defend SF's sh*te grasp of economics, but this old yarn has been spun since they tried to introduce minimum wage in the first place.
If your small business can't afford to pay its staff a livable wage then you have a sh*te business dependent on exploitation.
Based on what is happening in North small business are not surviving and that has nothing to do with paying staff
I would say small business treat staff a lot better compared to multinationals when you are just a number on a spreadsheet
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/shock-as2500-ni-businesses-go-bust-in-five-years-40765326.html
https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2022-08-05/two-to-three-businesses-closing-each-week-amid-cost-of-living-crisis
Load of bull….. if people can’t pay for your product, you’re goosed.
If they're literally not paying their staff enough to live, they're hardly treating them better than multinationals. I'll happily continue to take being a well paid number on a spreadsheet over the owner knowing my wife's name while simultaneously trying to pay me the absolute bare minimum he can legally get away with, playing the poor mouth while driving round in his '22 reg Mercedes.
Small businesses in the North failing when nothing to do with paying their staff is of no relevance whatsoever to my point about small businesses set up in such a way that they would fail if they paid their staff a living wage so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up. Small businesses fail for lots of reasons. My point stands, if the only reason your business is viable is because you're exploitative, you have a sh*te business.
If you were working 40 hours a week and still couldn't afford to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, you'd be even more goosed Bren.
That’s a fair point Fionn,however as in any business if staff costs and wages are too high, then prices will have to be raised to offset that
and customers then have to make a decision whether to buy or not.
So we should ignore all the small business closing in Northern Ireland?
The "example" you gave? is this real? the satisfaction of staff in Ireland/Northern Ireland are similar so it would suggest staff and wages are not the issue in Northern Ireland
Northern Ireland would seem to be similar
These 2 surveys measure completely different metrics....you can't honestly expect anyone with half a braincell to attempt to extract a comparison between em🧐🤣
I'm STILL trying to understand exactly what this has to do with anything I said? It is an absolute non sequitur with regards to my point, which was, 'if your business fails because you have to pay your staff enough to live on, you had a sh*t business to begin with'.
Other businesses failing for other reasons is certainly a topic worth discussing, so no we shouldn't just ignore it, but it isn't really relevant to what I'm discussing, so it remains unclear exactly why you're quoting me.
Seems a bit, 'look over there-ish' to me, BA.
A fair enough comment, Bren, and a topic I'm very aware of given the very strong upward salary pressure in the area I hire people in....but again, if you're asking me to choose between paying an extra few percent on a product/service.....or being part of a society that will have someone work 40 hours a week and still have to choose which bills they pay this month and which they can get away with not being cut off until their next pay, well I don't find that too difficult a decision to make.
While I'm not perfect on the topic (I don't have perfect information of course), this is a choice I consistently make when it comes to how and where I spend my money so I'm not just parroting off lines that are easier to say than to live by.
You said "If your small business can't afford to pay its staff a livable wage then you have a sh*te business dependent on exploitation." which is the normal yarn that is fired out to say that all small business is ripping off staff. I tried to make the point that small business look after staff better but you came up with a story, was that a true story?
Anyway if that was the case and they are not paying, we would have dissatisfaction in workers. But we don't.
The original point was that Sinn Fein in government will cause small business to close. This is what is been seen in Northern Ireland. You seemed to suggest that small business will close because staff are not earning enough.
So if so many small businesses are closing in the North when staff are happy maybe explain why you think they are closing?
To quote what I posted
"Northern Ireland would seem to be similar"
I never said both are the same.
Let me be clear, I do not think that ALL small businesses are ripping people off. I'm not sure how you took that from my post. I specifically said that small businesses that would fail if they paid their staff a liveable wage are inherently based on exploitation. To further clarify, I'd have the same opinion of MNCs playing the poor mouth when it comes to paying their staff a living wage (particularly when they're pulling in huge profits).
The original point I responded to was that SF in government would cause small businesses to close by forcing them to pay their staff a livable wage. My response was that SF are economic incompetents, but if your business is totally dependent on paying your staff so poorly that a full time worker can't afford to get by.....well you have a sh*te business and maybe the problem doesn't lie with aul Joe on minimum wage not working hard enough.
Why you continue your non-sequitur into small businesses closing for other reasons, I have no idea. It STILL has nothing to do with my point, which I'll repeat again in case you still haven't got it at this point, 'if your business will fail if you pay your staff a liveable wage, you have a sh*te business'. No amount of businesses closing for whatever other reasons changes this point.
If I said that I stubbed my toe by running around blindfolded and barefooted, pointing out all the other ways people had stubbed their toe wouldn't make my decision any less stupid.
I'm not sure how you took that from my post
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I did ask you to confirm if that story was true but still waiting.
This was the original point: I expect Sinn Fein will put a lot of small businesses out of business due to making labour prohibitively expensive. I expect they will put the minimum way up to the living wage, up employer PRSI contributions and may introduce employer contributions to pensions.
It was not just about wages and it was about making the entire package will not work.
You seem to be suggesting that the current minimum wage is allowing companies to rip off staff, maybe I am wrong but thats the way it is reading.
I again revert back to job satisfaction in Ireland. If companies are not paying staff then why are they so satisfied?
If Sinn Fein come in, put in a load of changes which cripple Small Business, do you think people will be better off sitting at home on the dole or in work when 90% of them based on the report are satisfied?
P.S. I am not saying that some people do take advantage of workers, the report mentioned nearly 50% working overtime but a lot of comments on here would suggest that every company in Ireland is ripping off staff, underpaying them and "driving around in his(her) '22 reg Mercedes"
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