Insane is a fairly relative term, but the figures for non-EU immigrants would be expected to have reached unprecedented levels this year with the taking in of Ukrainian nationals.
Included in that figure though I would suggest the majority non-EU immigrants aren’t refugees or asylum seekers but immigrants who are employed here, coming from countries like the US, India and Brazil-
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp7md/p7md/p7anii/
Even if you subtract the Ukrainians the figure still remain insane. A sane figure for non EU immigration would be a fraction of the EU migration, not a significantly larger one.
A fraction, like what, 9/10ths is a fraction?
Sorry man, I’m only pulling your leg, but any time anyone uses that idea, I can’t resist 😂
Genuinely though, I don’t see the logic of how you’re making that out, particularly as it doesn’t matter where they’re coming from, it only matters that they can support themselves, even better if they can support themselves and the economy too by being employed in the fintech sector or attending third-level education and paying eye-watering fees to do so, then gaining employment in the fintech sector which is a bit of a sausagefest of “fighting age males”… 🤨
Yeah fintech doctors and engineers. Pull the other one.
You’re doing it wrong, the doctors and engineers trope applies to refugees and asylum seekers, not to immigrants more generally, the vast majority of whom actually ARE doctors and engineers! 😂
So we got 30.000 non EU doctors and engineers, all of them. You did pull the other one.
Come on. You’re being intentionally facetious. Most will be mid range white collar….analysts, quants and the likes. My FS MNC is probably 1/3 non EU. Analysts earning maybe 80k ish. There not all 150k Google developers
Stop embarrassing yourself
If you say so… Donald Trump.
Yeah
No need to attack a posters username, just shows you're clutching at straws.
Right. Care to estimate how many of these roles are created in a single year in Ireland? I can guess its in the hundreds, or even 1k or maybe even 2k. Not 30k, all of them filled with non EU migrants, in a single year. Now tell me again I'm being facetious.
I wonder what would be so wrong with demanding all immigrants have a job lined up and proof of secured accommodation prior to coming here.
Surely this would address all concerns and end 'welfare tourism'?
Do other countries do this? I know Australia and NZ are pretty strict
You really are a hoot 😂
Won't be taking the bait, sorry to disappoint you
There’s multi occupancy apartments in my complex in Dublin full of people from the subcontinent doing deliveroo and working in various service industries. They’ve arrived since Covid. There is a family of refugees from Afghanistan on my floor….both parents now working. Not all non EU immigrants work for MNCs. And, as said before, those many that do are mostly mid / junior level
Spoofer. The largest number single cohort are actually Brazilians, up to 13000 a year coming in vast majority as English language students that are working as many hours as pssible on the side in minimum wage retail deliveroo drivers etc
Also similar numbers coming in from Romania (yes from the EU). These are not doctors and nurses, have a look in the north inner city streets on any given day to get an idea of who some of them are...big families.
They certainly are not mostly white collar IT engineers..Check the stats. Yes they are coming in too but very large numbers are coming in on various other schemes ' part time' student work, factories , agriculture etc..
Thank you for proving my point. Gig economy should be the last resort for people unable to find other jobs, not the first option for lowly skilled immigrants which shouldn't be here in the first place, especially in such huge numbers that have such a significant impact on the population demographic.
I think in Australia you need to have proof of a minimum amount of money saved. Not sure about the job or accommodation.
All working.
i don’t know what your point is any more tbh
"Brazilians are non-visa-required nationals in Ireland,” says immigration lawyer Karen Berkeley of Berkeley Solicitors. “This means they can travel to Ireland to apply for permission to enter the State at the point of arrival, without first going through a lengthy visa application process at a local Embassy"
Sounds like a soft system. When does it get to the stage that a country tightens its immigration policies in line with its available resources.
The vast majority who come here just work and pay plenty of taxes and add to the country but our own citizens have nowhere to live, 1 million + waiting for healthcare etc. Too many folks chasing too little resources
What is the future of the country?
Why does the conversation have to be about though housing our onw first? Would it be more productive to direct the conversation over building more housing? The net effect of immigration are those whom are doing the jobs which cannot be filled are contributing handsomely to the exchequer. Any conversation has to be about building more housing, not why the current shortage should be filled by us Paddies.
Or the alternative view is that we have too few people to pay for the services that we want. Which will only get worse as our population ages. What we need are more young workers who don’t have a large demand on our services but who pay taxes.
This is where most of the work permits are going.
“We would have seen, particularly in the last six months, a significant increase in all sectors,” he said. “The four main sectors that we’re dealing with would be restaurants, hotels, construction and the truck drivers. Right across those four sectors, there’s been a rapid increase in applications in the last six months because of shortages in the area.
The vast majority of immigrants are doctors and engineers? You need to lower your dose and please spare me the inane rambling paragraphs.
Just admit that you’re spouting nonsense and move on.
Why would we not house our own first?
As in people whose families go generations back rather than housing people with no connection to the country or community and have just jumped off a plane.
What about those immigrants who don't contribute to the exchequer? Why should we give them HAP or housing ?
If we have a building capacity of 30k houses a year but have net immigration of 50 or 60k per year how can the housing crises ever improve?
Let's have a genuine conversation and ignore any shot taking or labels
Some people are just living in complete clown world. SMH
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Spoofer… have a look in the north inner city streets on any given day to get an idea of who some of them are...big families.
A nation of 5.1 million people, and you’re suggesting anyone have a look in the north inner city streets on any given day to see who some of them are… and calling anyone else a spoofer?
Ok 🙄
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