The far right are only theoretically existent in most of Europe.
Give that the UK and US are probably training 20-25k, giving the others an average of 3-3.5k give a potential battle group of 50k troops trained to near NATO standard
The Russian army is on the verge of collapse IMO.
People have been saying that since March. One day it'll be true, but when.
Ah yeah- I never said I disagreed with NATO. Intervention . But they’re in for a penny in for a pound at this stage- this continuous trickle of support as opposed to much more assertive military support will just keep the war going with a stalemate on both sides.
You’ve totally misinterpreted my post- you’ve added 2 and 2 and got 427 -calm down dear
There is about a dozen nato countries training now, Norway was last announced few pages back, there is this now
Explain exactly how you've come to that conclusion.
The problem is the prospect of the coming to power of the far right via mass manipulation of the instruments that a functioning democracy depends on. Mass manipulation like mass Russian propaganda - supported by western kleptocratic interests - both online and in traditional media, in alliance with western kleptocrats.
Functioning democracy and the basic freedoms we enjoy then likely come to an end.
It seems to me you may not have much of a problem with that.
Absolutely agree. The west is not doing near enough to hand the Russians their sorry arses back to Moscow. Letting them hold and use a nuclear power plant as a weapon and blackmail tool to European soils is shameful.
NATO and US providing weapons wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference if Ukraine didn't want to use them.
Its a ludicrous suggestion that they are prolonging a war that they are not taking part in, ridiculous, childish stuff.
So you agree, democracy is a problem. It's allowing the far right to take hold?
No need for the passive aggressive tabloid gotcha comment btw, it was a simple question.
Easily countered though, by asking "where would Putin have rolled in to next"? and remembering that the Ukrainian people wish to remain independent.
Your post doesn't make sense.
What "accusations" are you referring to?
There have been accusations that the US and the NATO countries are not doing enough. This would be my view.
The alternative, and what you seem to be accusing them of, is that they are doing too much.
Doing less than they are already doing would probably result in the end of Ukraine and a genocide on a much bigger scale than we are already seeing.
It's MORE that needs to be done so that this war can end with the clear victory for Ukraine and for freedom - and the humiliating and total defeat for Russia - that is so desperately needed.
Hence the accusations that NATO and the US are propping up this war through their supply of weapons and assistance.
Russia has no qualms around sending soldiers to their death so the war will continue even if they are the weaker side but you can’t help but think at this stage that there needs to be some peaceful and long term resolution soon.
The presence of the Republican party is still a huge worry. De Santis would likely be as bad as Trump. The whole party has become one big apocalyptic cult. It's going to be a terrible problem going forward, it threatens the whole concept of the west as we know it, could plunge the US into absolute chaos and hand long term global dominance to China and Russia, not to mention the implications that holds for the earth's climate.
The chief Russian weaknesses seem to be reinforcing troops / giving furlough to those already deployed. And their supply chains of food, equipment and munitions.
The Russians have a number of serious problems (according to reports)
Read my comment in the whole instead of going all pretend tabloid gotcha, thanks.
Russia's modus operandi is to use the very freedoms we have in the west to flood our information spaces with total bullshit and create an environment of mass stupidity where governments who do their bidding can be installed and bring down the west from the inside.
A functioning democracy depends on an informed populace. If you can flood the information space with enough propaganda, you no longer have an informed populace, democracy dies, tyranny takes hold, and catastrophe ensues. That's what happened in 1930s Germany. That's why any rise of far right sentiment is always a worry, because these bastards would only love to return western Europe to those dark days. We see that right now, where the far right cheerleads Russia in waging barbaric war.
Making people stupid and individualistic has been a core strategy of all those who desire authoritarian/kleptocratic rule. It's just done to varying degrees. Russia practises an extreme version of it, as does the far right media complex in the US. The right wing media in Britain practises a milder version. One thing the US right wing, the British right wing and the Russians are all in alliance about is they desire the rule of kleptocracy and the super rich. They differ a bit in the amount of basic freedoms they want to extend to ordinary people, and specific groups of ordinary people.
The presence of Trump is still a huge worry, although I think his re-election would be far less likely if this conflict is still ongoing in a couple of years. Biden has handled the conflict extremely well, but it seems that won't do him any good domestically.
All i see is Russian weakness. Yes they are making small gains but in the grand scale they are going nowhere.
So democracy is a problem now?
They seem to be making small gains. Here's one
The problem is western governments are subject to democracy, and democracy is shaped by media control and social media. The Russians are exceptionally good at flooding western media and social media spaces with agent provocateurs who poison public opinion. In my view there is a massive delusion in the west about the extent to which this has happened and the extent to which it has worked.
If the Republicans do well in the November elections that could seriously hamper the US's response. If this war is still going on in 2024 you could get Trump back in the White House in early 2025 - or De Santis who is just as bad - and a totally unhinged Republican party and its media pushing the Russian line - which could put the kibosh not just on Ukraine but on the west as we know it.
Yes but they had to be beaten back in 2 years of brutal war. The advances of 1918 were obliterated in the negotiating table at Versailles. Russian advances today will be obliterated eventually around a negotiating table too.
The outrage is largely a sideshow sadly. It's more about two things; economics and geopolitics. Russia's "enemies" will be only too happy to keep this proxy war going and watch it bleed Russia dry. Even their "friends" like China are only too happy to be able to buy oil from them at firesale prices.
If Ukraine eventually takes back Crimea there's no fooking way the Russians are hanging onto Sevastopol for use by their navy.
Beware of those who claim a quick resolution is in sight. Crises in the age of social media can lead people into delusion and "saviour syndrome", or to believe crazy conspiracies. All of these things will be driven by performatively certain grifters seeking to make a name for themselves.
During the Trump shitshow of a presidency there were countless commentators who claimed that "Mueller has got this" and that Trump would be behind bars soon. Unfortunately that was never likely to be the case, as it was with Nixon. Mueller did the minimum, the Democrats did the minimum, and never properly went after Trump. The inertia in the judicial and political system as regards a criminal, especially a criminal president, is massive. There was real fear about what would come out if Trump was properly gone after.
During Covid we had a whole load of people who breathlessly came up with crackpot theories, that China had manufactured it as a bioweapon, that it was a World Economic Forum conspiracy, that the virus itself was a fake, that restrictions were designed to be permanent, that facemasks were dangerous, that the vaccines were state sponsored murder, that hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin were supposedly miracle cures, blah blah blah. All bullshit.
This war will be likely a long grind and the west, for all it is doing, likely still isn't doing enough, nearly, for it to come to the clear resolution that needs to happen. This could go on for several years, even many years. The Balkan wars lasted from 1991 to 1995 and even that wasn't the end of it because there was still Kosovo to come. The Iran-Iraq war lasted from 1980 to 1988, and these would certainly not be the last wars these countries were involved in.
There's this assumption that people in the west are very selfish and have goldfish length attention spans. I think it's something Russia believed, that there'd be no appetite for supporting Ukraine, that the leaders would complain but go back to normal very quickly.
Western countries aren't going to stop supporting Ukraine, to wink and say 'feck you Putin, you yoke you, go on and have Ukraine'.
Rapes, massive slaughter of civilians outside Kyiv, a fake premise for war; there is no way the west will forget what's happened this year.
There's a lot of trolls on Twitter saying the west is losing interest. This is just propaganda to demoralize people.
They might resort to this...
While he has loads of shells, artillery barrel's for the guns is the issue it seems
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