Reports he was punched and stabbed. Poor man been living under the proverbial axe of the fundamentalist lunatics for so long.
A religion IS a demographic background!! So is age group.
And you seen to be falling into the same trap of tarring one billion people with the same brush as one leader.
I think the middle eastern version supported by saudi arabia and iran maybe that way but the majority of the 2bn muslims are not in that region. I wouldnt think of the indonesians or malaysians or even Turkish as being that backwards. The religion of peace insult is not actually accurate for alot of muslims. The Iranian mullahs are definitely POS but at least the Saudis seem to be slowly modernising.
I'm not sure that I'm reading this right, is your argument that throughout history Christianity did similar, or even worse things? If that's so then yes, no one can deny that, but using this argument actually implies that islam is hundreds of years behind, which I'm not even going to argue against...
Morgan is a massive hypocrite.
https://youtu.be/4hwkhM041ig
This 'religion of peace' jibe makes it very clear that we're arguing religious and not demographic background.
There is no argument to be had about cause and motive since it's very clear: a peaceful leader of the religion of peace called upon the peaceful followers to kill a man over a book. So far they succeeded to kill a publisher and a translator and they were very close to kill the main target.
I think that the West is desperate for Iran to come in from the cold and give us cheap oil so will be interesting what the political reaction to this will be. Funny the Saudis can chop up an american citizen and still the US president will kiss their feet while the Iranians are still thought as the ultimate evil.
Very true, but people aren't arguing cause or motive - they're arguing demographic background.
This 'religion of peace' jibe makes that very clear.
Definitely, put the blinkers on and excuse other religions. They are all in the same bag in case you've missed it. History explains it all.
Yeah both analogies were wrong and I shouldn't have given any thought about replying in the first place. I'm not going into any more whataboutery about Christianity or other religion when we all know which religion is to blame here.
The whataboutery is precisely because they are attacking our values and freedoms.
It could be as simple as you don't feed these muppets. Attention seekers etc...
On the other hand I'm pretty sure this thread will investigate it, or it might have been done already.
Anyway I hope Rushdie pulls through. It's fooking scary to be hunted for years and years because of one book.
No its not. There is no head of all Muslims. The religion doesn't entail doing what a pope of sorts dictates. There are numerous sects and beliefs. Christianity covers Protestants, catholics, church of England, Anglicans, evangelics, Mormons, and so on.
George W. said God chose him. There are senior Republicans in the US who think supporting Israel will bring Jesus back. Our own leaders use to discuss the path of the nation with religious leaders.
This thread is about justifying attacking all Muslims and using Rushdie to do it. Its shameless.
more people have been killed in mass shootings
And even more in traffic accidents. What matters is that these attacks are attacks on our values and freedoms, not the body count.
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As soon as it was known that it was an Islamic attack it dropped from the media and consciousness.
Shia Islam tends to be more relaxed than Sunni Islam.
Don't get me wrong it still has incredible violence, hate for women, gays, Jews, etc etc etc. Just less than Sunni Islam, which is much stricter about following Mohammads command, word and deed.
Yeah Bill Maher while funny, has a great way of getting the message across. Piers Morgan is trying to be a knight in shining armour but comes off as a loser dressed in tinfoil.
Bill Maher well said…Piers Morgan is an opportunistic parasite.
The two gay men murdered and 1 other man lost an eye from the same Muslim man in Sligo earlier this year amazing how that story dropped off the news so quickly
There seems to be some with short memories around here.
Not 'you' personally! But how many people have been killed by terrorists in Ireland?
But in the US more people have been killed in mass shootings by disgruntled teens in the last few years then by terrorists.
Well said Bill Maher & Piers Morgan
But if the pierced liver was the big danger would the agent not have mentioned that first and highlighted it? Maybe he didn't want to be passing judgement on relative seriousness of different things when he doesn't know for sure...
Yeh, we all know about it Sunni/Shia split. But are you seriously suggesting Sunni’s had no problem with Rushdie?
Sunni extremists from ISIS and Al Qaeda to the Muslim Brotherhood wanted him dead, regardless of the Iranian fatwa.
Speculation/news so far that the attacker had Iranian sympathies.
but it's only 1-10000 nutters. 🤔 I have lived in the ME all you have to do is the wrong thing when someone is looking and you can fall afoul. And the worst thing is you can't tell if it's the old guy or someone young that will take offence. Older tend to be a bit more open minded lived through tougher times. Best thing is do not draw attention and just get on with it.
I did, thousands praising the attack in the vilest of manners.
If you type in 'Salman Rushdie' and 'Allah' into twitter, prepare to see the true face of Islam.
Lisa Smith in Ireland. Have been a number in the UK, France and elsewhere. I think it's a lot higher than 1 one in a 1000. The majority are male, no-ones denying that but putting this into the 'men are toxic' frame favoured by some elements of the left is not going to work. Which is what you're trying to do, aren't you?
Even when we broaden it out to include examples of terrorism unrelated to Islam, we find several prominent female terrorists:
(1) IRA and similar - Marian Price, Dolours Price, Mairead Farrell, off the top of my head.
(2) The far left German terrorist group Baader-Meinhof was named after the two leaders, Andreas Baader and Ulrika Meinhof. Several of the other prominent members were also women.
Have been more than a few female Palestinian suicide bombers also. I know some folk don't agree that the Palestinian campaign is terrorism due to the Israelis engaging in acts of alleged repression/instigation, but that's for a different thread.
True. And I've certainly no issue obeying the customs when entering mosques. Contrary to the attempts of some on here to paint me as some kind of demented far right fascist, I've been in a mosque (the largest one in Malaysia), and found it very impressive and moving. Not quite for me, but neither are Christian churches.
People need to choose a side on this and if you in any way are an apologist for the attacker should be forced to live in Iran/Saudi Arabia for a year. See how your woke shite goes down there.
Nope, considering we have to observe rules and traditions if we are to enter a mosque…places of business etc.
also, here is one… every financial institution I know, banks, building society and credit unions has a sign demanding that all motorcycle or moped riders remove their headgear before entering…ie. Helmets…
do they also demand that female Muslims would remove their burqa or whatever face covering ? If not, WHY not ?
