You know what they were. You said it earlier yourself. Stop with the game playing.
“Russian collusion” isn’t a crime. But laundering money for them and lying to the FBI are.
I wouldn't bother trying to explain, poster has no intention of arguing in good faith
You could infer that all right.
However since last night the WP came out with claims that the search was to find documents relating to nuclear weapons, some tool* attacked the FBI and got shot dead, so trump is now saying that he doesn't opposite the unsealing of the warrant.
* He wrote on "truth" that he was going to do the attack and encouraged others on the platform to kill all FBI members on sight.
The noise and grifting trump and others have been doing about the execution of the warrant that lead up to the attack are the reason the DOJ took the unprecedented step to ask the court to unseal the warrant.
But what can we infer about situations where you had people on this site yesterday claiming that trump didn't get a copy of the warrant or the inventory from the FBI which were lies, and ignored evidence presented that this wasn't the case. The same person was posting lies in the Ukraine thread in politics and stating that the Russians were justified in invading Ukraine, so for myself personally I am beginning to see a pattern of behaviour that I see often in my work.
Worth noting that the house oversight committee highlighted the potential issue of trump handing nuclear secrets back in 2019
https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf
Being Conservative, I get along well on the US Republician social media hangouts. Where before the raid on Trump's home there had been a cooling of support for Mr. Trump, now it is almost uninamious support for him over the perceived overt politicisation of the state security apparatus. Whilst such actions are non unprecedented (historical eg President Adams weaponisation of censorship laws to target his opponents). Thus this marks a distinct crossing of line in modern America.
Can you cite that rise in support from a verifiable source? Don't you think the line was already crossed with the investigation of Hilary Clinton's servers? Which came up with nothing and no indictments
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What’s are the Feds supposed to do ?
the FBI director is a trump nominee. The investigation is looking at whether Trump had ‘secret’ and/or classified nuclear documents at his home.
if he had them, then why ?
it appears that both Putin and the Saudis have trump by the balls….
bidens recent trip to Saudi was to mark their card
Trump is going to jail for this assuming he doesn’t kick the bucket first, develop new bone spurs or eat all the evidence
surely the GOP can find a candidate to push their agenda without being a threat to National security?
Slightly off the topic of the search, does Trump now face another issue over Truth Social.
A clear threat was made on the platform against the FBI and the lives of agents. Did Truth Social pass this on? Was any intervention sought with the user? Was the post removed? Did anyone that saw the post notify the authorities? Why not?
Never underestimate how hard the similarly minded and simple minded will double down when they have been found out lying
You think it was only one post, the platform is full of them.
You would image people would learn after parler and gab
In relation to Truth Social - they delete posts that they don't like. They don't even try hide it or filter things by shadow banning an account they don't like, they just flat out delete it. Apparently death threats are no problem, but if you question something the Dear Leader has said...
The "Free Speech platform" is even less free than the "Marxist" Twitter.
The appropriate term for stealing top secret documents from the White House is 'espionage'.
Turns out that DOJ had already issued a subpoena back in spring - how much more lenient can you get?
Do you believe Trump should be allowed to break the law as he wishes without interference from law enforcement?
If not what did you and other conservatives expect to happen if Trump broke the law and a lawful warrant was required to gather evidence?
I do agree with you on the crossing the line issue, it's just that it may be a return to where you can have trust, and not distrust, in the O/P. If the GOP heads doing the talking are truly US conservative in political nature, they'll have to accept the word of their FBI and other security services pals [and they do have them] that what Trump held unto was outside the bounds where US national security and safety of the nation is concerned.
[IMO] anyone from the GOP and conservative nature who keeps rolling out the line that Trump is purer that the driven snow and more trustworthy in the office of president than anyone else isn't worth talking to. Calling out the incompetent crooked lying former head of state is way overdue.
I mean what were the charges that Manafort was prosecuted for?
Bidens trip to Saudi was to ask them to produce more oil and sell them more weapons - something he campaigned in that he wouldn’t do
Interestingly, when Trump did the same thing the media lost their mind.
You know what they were.
What's your point?
Can you support with evidence that the “media lost their mind”?
I am well aware that some people, mainly on Twitter, got emotional about Trump's comings and goings way too often. But I really can’t recall anyone, especially in the media, losing their mind.
I guess reporting on something happening is the new "losing your mind".
What a shock….
Reporting on something is fine but when the next president does the exact same thing which is contrary to what he campaigned on, the media do a 180 and now doing business with Saudi isn’t a problem anymore.
See? I told you they have no interest in arguing in good faith
Trump didn't need Saudi oil because of the lack of Russian oil on the market
There would have been no sanctions on Russia under Trump and Ukraine would be part of NovoRussia with other East European states being set up for the next phase of the expansion of Putin's power.
So Trump would not have needed Saudi oil and USA and Russia would be the new anti democratic world order/axis.
Sound fun?
Even if that was the case, it isn't "losing their mind". 🙄
Espionage Act
Oh boy oh boy.
Getting interesting now
Jesus. Well I guess this is why Trump and his cronies didn't want it to be made public. The Espionage Act. Wow.
And yet. Watch them pivot and make this a Deep State conspiracy. Drip drip, the erosion of authority continues.
This is from the Atlantic.
Before and after.
So he and his team released the warrant with the FBI agents names included to Breitbart, who published it in full along with the names of the agents.
At this stage only scum are supporting this guy and the GOP or attempting any form of whataboutery regardless of any mental health illness they might have or not have. Similar to those who are doing the same for the likes of Alex Jones
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