Is it too late for Europe and the World. There is fires everywhere.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462476#Comment_119462476

30 degrees yeah and???

We have had 30 degrees numerous times before and we’re all still here.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462415#Comment_119462415

I think that was fairly unclear from your posts........I was only responding to the bit about your family being glad of it in decades to come ...presumably due to changing climate/socio/economic conditions etc

You did after all respond to my post where I was wondering if a poster was being sardonic claiming they were "smart and ballsy" for buying up hill ground to protect themselves and their family from the effects of climate change by telling me you didn't think it was sardonic at all????

Nothing wrong with a place in the country and your family could well be glad of it....I agree....and more power to you!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461363#Comment_119461363

Snowflakes? What snowflakes? Its 30 degrees apparently!

We are fucked though. As long as people refuse to understand the difference between weather and climate, and local and global; and take the "ahh-shure-what-can-I-do-it's-industry's-fault", there's no hope.

handlemaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119361680#Comment_119361680

I was worried there for a while. Now that I know your opinions I will sleep better.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462220#Comment_119462220

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462281#Comment_119462281

Jesus Christ lads. I haven’t bought a house in the country because I’m scared of climate change! I bought it because I like it. I live here very happily. I was getting tired of living in an increasingly busy Dublin, which is going to sh1te. And I will continue to be glad of that as population pressure increases.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461630#Comment_119461630

I just do my job. Whether I do it or not makes absolutely no difference to whether it is done, like all of us that work in white collar industries.

In case you haven’t realised by now, this climate agenda is not being driven by the Greens. It’s much much bigger than that. Bigger than government. I suggest you pick up the TCFD report from any bank, asset manager, or major corporate organisation and see what they are all committed to (and being held to by the shareholders) in terms of climate and sustainability (which includes biodiversity, plastics, poverty etc, not just climate). And I can tell you by working on this that it is real…..not just words on a page. And it’s the right thing so as to make a cleaner and more equitable world

voting out Eamonn Ryan will make no difference.

and like it or not, climate driven migration is on its way. Whether it’s created by humans is another debate and largely irrelevant here. Personally, as has been discussed on other threads, I think that it is climate driven mass migration that will lead to the break up of the EU, as countries fall out over distributing the numbers and there is pressure on borders

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462281#Comment_119462281

Good defensive position for when the mass influx comes to take your....nice view?.........thin potentially stony infertile soil, lack of water and shade and sparse vegetation?

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462220#Comment_119462220

Might get you around the fabled sea rise but if that's the case your house will probably washed away due to runoff from above you or mudslides.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461403#Comment_119461403

I dont disagree entirely but it struck me that that a hill or high ground wouldn't be a great buy as some sort of long term hedge against mass migration, hotter temperatures, less rainfall.......it has a lot of disadvantages if you think about it

riclad

It's not too late if we switch over to using green energy, solar, wind, or nuclear, more people cycle to work, put 15k tax on large cars, but the problem I see is russia, India, China, Brazil are governed by right wing fascist governments, who like the current system, global country's need to adopt greeny policy's, this is unlikely, talking about Banning petrol cars in 2030 is pointless , we have maybe 5 years left to fix this, every year it becomes hotter, less rainfall, at this rate we, ll run out of water, planting trees help as it provides more shade in city's one example the uk is becoming more like Spain in terms of summer temps, hot days,

Less air travel will help, holiday at home. The problem is we are all doomed if country's like India China Russia don't change their energy use policy's and really all crypto mining should be banned its simply a waste of energy and it puts up prices for other uses

I'm not optimistic, Politicans think in terms of 3 to 5 years, getting a pension, most are not concerned about global warming until they run out of water or its too hot to go outside

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461522#Comment_119461522

Ah so you have skin in the game of this climate nonsense.

Should have known that, disappointed I didn’t clock that one sooner

Basically you’re creaming it from putting fear into peoples lives.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461403#Comment_119461403

If you zoom out at the world on Google maps you'll see over two thirds of the earth's land is desert. Look at Africa, Middle East, China, Australia, United States and South America. All these country's lands is desertifying.

Same with Spain, Portugal, parts of France Turkey etc

Its desertifying because there's no livestock on the land and whatever livestock is there is very poorly managed.

There all in feedlots. Sheds. Feed corn and silage.

There's nothing there to break the hard soil, eat the grasses before they oxidise, dung and urine on that ground to help fertilise the soil and grow again for the next year etc.

So when there's no grassland or trees or forest etc pulling that carbon out from the air or holding onto the water/moisture and putting it into plants to grow and subsequently carbon being stored in the soil,, we could get rid of every car, airplane, cow pig and sheep its not gonna make a blind bit of difference because the land will continue to desertification.

Until people in those country's start to do the unthinkable, and get livestock and millions more of them back on there lands and manage them properly, strip grazing and moving everyday keeping soil covered by there dung urine and trampling grasses etc humans have absolutely no chance of stopping climate change.

We in ireland have some of the best grassland farmers in the world and there knowledge is gonna be unbelievablely important to helping those country's restore there soil.

Hard uncovered soil is the same as concrete when rain hits it. Where does that water go? Straight away It all runs down to the nearest stream, river gully etc. Its gone. It isn't absorbed by the plants or soil and being retained and slowly flowing down to the rivers ponds eventually sea etc.

dublin49

yeah agree there will be a migration North and we need to get our heads around it,we can justify borders for economic migrants but not when where they currently live becomes effectively uninhabitable.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461497#Comment_119461497

Where did I say I was worried? I don’t sit at home all concerned…..I just find the blind denials of some quite striking

the impact on Ireland will undoubtedly be increased immigration and substantial population growth, and there is a whole thread on multiculturalism, and the challenges that it’s posing.

For full disclosure though, I am involved in building out the climate related strategies for a large global financial institution, including divesting all coal related business by 2030, strategies to grow the renewables portfolio and the building of emissions targets and triggers into corporate bond issues. Which shows, incidentally, that this is much bigger than whether the Greens are in government

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461462#Comment_119461462

And like I said if what you are saying is true, your hill won’t save your grandchildren.

You are wasting your time and life sitting at home worrying about some doomsday scenario that might never happen.

I can assure you Eamon Ryan definitely isn’t doing the same.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461432#Comment_119461432

that’s not why I bought the hill. I live on the hill, overlooking the sea. It’s altogether very pleasant

But thinking that there’s nothing coming down the road in terms of the movement of hundreds of millions of displaced people is insanity. A bizarre head-in-the-sand attitude

bit like I said, it’s not a problem that either you or I are going to have to deal with

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461403#Comment_119461403

Imagine actually buying a hill because your scared something might happen but you’re not sure and have no evidence of happening.

Bizzare.

This is insanity yet you lads swallow it hook line…

And the fact you think a mountain will save your grandkids from billions of people😃😃😃

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461296#Comment_119461296

I think it’s sardonic at all. I think it’s an inevitability. I have a place and some land half way up a mountain in the west which I think will be a place that my family will be glad of in decades to come after I am gone

whether climate change is man made or not is increasingly an irrelevance. There will be mass migration from Africa, the Middle East and, in time, Southern Europe. What we see now will be a drop in the ocean and Ireland and Ireland won’t escape the influx.

most of us here will be gone. So maybe we all needn’t care. But our grandkids will have to deal with it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461296#Comment_119461296

Oh no another hot day in the summer.

We’re doomed!!!

The Snowflakes are now in charge.

EOQRTL

😉 It sure is

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461234#Comment_119461234

Is this ironic/sardonic...its hard to tell these days.

EOQRTL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460345#Comment_119460345

Excuse me white middle aged men not just any man.

EOQRTL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119401714#Comment_119401714

We aren't going to win the climate battle. Anyone thinking we will is lying to themselves. Ireland will in time become one of Europe's lifeboat nations as millions upon millions flee the intense heat and lack of water on the mainland. The smart ballsy guys like myself are buying land in elevated sites to leave as an investment for my family and grandkids as it become increasingly expensive and we need to build millions of homes and apartments for the coming herds of the displaced.

mickdw

Shhhhhh. Don't say that too loud' you will offend many around here.

They are clearly the wrong scientists. If they are not calling it as climate catastrophe caused by man, they are clearly cranks.

Pussyhands

Just watched itv news there. They had a scientists from a University and they said these periods go in cycles. There's 28 days without rain in the UK and in 1976 for example they went 40 days without rain.

Also said these extreme events go in cycles and are more linked to El Nino rather than climate change.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119399459#Comment_119399459

So, to put it into context, if humans are responsible for the 0.04% of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere which is all of it (we aren’t), road transport is 0.00476% of this.

People really need to get a grip.

Overheal

We cant fight fires - that is liberal pork!

https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1553217257135906817?s=20&t=zusoQQHvnY5DKFQqH_H_bw

riddles

We enabled China and Russia by outsourcing production and energy supplies to both ignoring the fact they aspire to none of the values the EU sets out. We are paying the price now.

Globally the level of pollution is the core topic. The environmental impact is the symptom and it can be argued night and day from there. In Ireland we should have pristine beaches, rivers and lakes. That should be our number topic in my opinion and then work back from there. The sheer volume of pollution coming from China is something they need to deal with but we can influence that by phasing out trade with them at an EU level. The greens approach is to literally p1ss into the wind which is what infuriates most reasonable thinking people. Gas production in Russia emits massive amounts of methane as a by product which given their profit margins they couldn’t give a damn about. As painful as it is the quicker we stop giving money to these corrupt regimes the sooner we reduce their power.

The solution to reduced pollution is reduced consumption this has an impact on our economic balance and that is inescapable because we have engaged in platitudes and nonsense and not meaningful policies.