New regulations new season....
Can redbull keep up the pace
That would explain this https://www.trackdays.co.uk/experience/jordan-f1-driving-experience/5559/
Its almost fashionable to make fun of Eddie and I think he plays up to that image abit tbh but Eddie has done it all and walked away with a fortune. The sad thing about Jordan gp is that there is no real collection of Jordan cars. I believe most were sold off at different times and possibly butchered to some degree.
I thought Horner was fine on DTS. He told Ricciardo he’d be happy to keep him and if he wanted to be the number 1 driver at RB he could prove it on the track. Ricciardo didn’t fancy it and moved elsewhere for a packet of money. It’s obvious he favours Max but to be fair, you can see why.
I always find it hilarious when people hate Horner but like Wolff, when they’re practically identical in how they act.
Horner wasn't very complementary towards Eddie Jordan on C4 a few years ago.
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Horner comes across as a knob to any RB driver not named Max Verstappen.
Season 3 where he constantly sh*ts on Gasly as well while Albon is performing worse than him. Horrible man.
Not sure if the car just isn't as good this year but Gaslys star ain't burning as bright this year, tsunoda is catching up on him to a degree. Plus isn't it fairly well documented him and Ocon don't get on? AT confirmed Gasly for next season.
More I think about the more im not sure Ricciardo will even have a seat this year, when you see the likes of KMag taken a year out and being fairly competitive in a low midfield car you could see Alpine looking around for better value drivers. If Ricciardos salary really is 15million a season I doubt he could even commend half of that now? Though Ricciardos second season at Renault was fairly impressive looking back on it, perhaps they'd hope he could recoup that form?
I agree Ricciardo should be looking for the best seat he can but I don't think he can command a huge salary.
I'm sure any new contract for him will be majorly performance based. He really cannot complain about that because he has it all to prove again.
I definitely think Ricciardo is the maker of his own barriers when it comes to a drive next season.
Yeah there's another variable. It's either that he had lost his touch or he just can't drive this car. Hard to tell until we see how he goes in another car.
If he just can't drive this car, it will still be a concern to any other team as he's bloody expensive, but failed to adapt to the mclaren. And we know the mclaren is decent because of how well Norris gets on (he's 20 points ahead of either Alpine driver). So he's not a particularly attractive prospect for anyone at the moment. If he was cheap he'd be worth a gamble but given he's so expensive, I wonder who will want him.
Thats harsh. He beat both team mates at Renault, very comfortably beating ocon who is giving Alonso a fair run yet Ricciardo is finished and Alonso is good as ever.
Does not add up.
Not sure what people you're talking about - Alonso was clearly still one of the best drivers on the grid being held back by a terrible car at that time. I don't think there was any doubt in most people's minds around 2018 that if you put Alonso in a Merc he'd be winning WDCs easily.
Ricciardo is underperforming and finishing a long way behind his less experienced teammate quite consistently, there's just no reason for any other team to want him right now. Alpine would be doing McLaren a favour by taking him off their hands, I honestly don't think they will and think they'll plump for younger talent instead.
People said the same of Alonso after his years in McLaren
I personally think Daniel is finished, if he sits out a year who is going to want him? Sure he has won a load of races but realistically speaking hasn't performed for his last two teams.
What would he be losing in sponsorship? The salary would be one part of his earnings only. Not sure how it works but I imagine with all those watch deals there'd be a fair bit of money involved.
Must be hassle for those who design the merch for the coming year!
I don't believe Ricciardo has lost his form.
Whatever McLaren are doing, the car is odd to drive and doesn't suit Ricciardo. Added to that, Norris is probably marginally quicker in any machinery and there lies the big gap.
I would hope he would be very competitive with ocon in the alpine still.
I think McLaren and alpine are going to need to talk to get drivers sorted.
If ricciardo doesn't have an offer of a good seat, he will outright refuse to vacate his McLaren seat.
On current form Gasly would be the best option for Alpine next year. Ricciardo would be behind a lot of other options based on his performances the last year and a half.
Yeah this is my understanding. I understand that if they didn't find him a drive for next year by the end of July, then he's free to find one for himself. But the rest of the contract is still intact. So he's contracted until the end of the season.
Thinking about it, mclaren would need to buy Ricciardo out of his contract plus buy Piastri out of his contract in order to make a switch this season. It ain't going to happen.
That would be the contract for next year I'd assume... He's still contracted to end of current season (if he's not, then the entire legal department at Alpine need to be fired)
Piastri isn't under contract with alpine, alpines failure to negotiate on time with him for a new one meant it lapsed
An unusual situation in an unhappy camp doesn’t prove some sweeping generalisation. At the end of the day you’re saying no loyalty exists in F1 so either way between any of the grid and their team. Tabloid stuff.
Also, who do they get to drive this year? Piastri is under contract with Alpine, why would they lift a finger to help McLaren?
Yeah true but mclaren need to get a rookie up to speed within half a season, to score more points than Ricciardo would. Bad an all as Ricciardo is, it would be a big ask for a complete rookie to jump in the car without pre-season testing or a history of simulator work.
I really don't see it happening. I'd say he'll see out the year and part ways after that.
Well, and this is a bit out there... if Daniel continues to underperform this year and costs the team a place compared to Alpine, ending the contract 1.4 years early instead of 1 might make financial sense considering the extra prize money for McLaren an less for direct competition Alpine.
Just watching back drive to survive season 1, episode 4. All about Riccardo's switch to Renault.
Pity to see how far Daniels star has fallen so quickly (that was the 2018 season).
Horner comes across like a knob in it.
I'd find it hard to reach 14 but you could imagine the likes of Ricciardo, Hulkenberg, magnussen, Schumacher, Gasley, albon, grosjean, bottas and reserve drivers.
Probably lots of drivers in FE and other formulas too. The Alpine isn't a great car. Solidly behind the big 3, but it's not bad either. It would be attractive to lots of the current grid.
Awe OK. Ye maybe that's it.
Constellation championship. Always good to reach for the stars🌌😁
McLaren don't change drivers mid season. I reckon Riccardo is going nowhere. Either upgrid or to another garage.
What options have Alpine other than Ricciardo ?
Otmar Szafnauer has mentioned 14 calls regarding the seat but I wonder who else might be interested. It is a works team and must be very attractive.
Gasly is mentioned , as is Schumacher, but I imagine there must be more than that.
And would Ricciardo be their preferred driver, all things being equal.
I could imagine a scenario where Ricciardo would lower his price if McLaren could guarantee him a seat in another team. McLaren paying Alpine compensation for Piastri might be agreed inexchange for Alpine agreeing to offer a seat to Danial. But I cannot se Alpine paying anything like the money Ricciardo thinks he is worth.
Its hard to imagine them dropping Ricciardo mid-season. But we'll just have to wait and see. It would be exciting to have a new face towards the front of the grid mid-season.
Mclaren are in a serious battle for the in the constellation championship. Maybe they feel they have a better shot by removing Ricciardo and getting a rookie up to speed mid-season. But I doubt it. I'd say there will be no change until next year.
