So do you think German politicians will allow the gas to run out in Germany? (Assuming Putin turns off the taps?).
Honestly I can’t see it.
At the beginning of this conflict, that might have been the case. But a lot has happened since, a lot of pain for both Ukraine, Europe and wider. I can't see the 'west' rowing back, as someone wrote above - more likely a slow strangulation of Russian ground forces and maximising pressure on Putin's regime. As was pointed out after the first couple of weeks, he has way overestimated Russian capabilities and on a loser since then, one way or another.
Germany has finally been getting its act together regarding both military support for Ukraine and planning to get away from energy dependence on Russia. I really don't think it's going to abandon all that come winter, especially after the way Russia has started weaponising energy. Relations between the two countries are bad, trust completely gone.
If there's anyone still pushing for shoddy compromises (ignoring Hungary), it's France, not Germany.
I can’t see winter being good for the EU nor Ukraine tbh.
Not because of the Russian army- I think they’ll suffer heavy losses from the superior western backed Ukrainian army- but as soon as Germany backs out of its own sanctions regarding gas and nordstream pipelines, the whole effort against Russian aggression starts to fail.
There is no way the Germans will allow their own people to suffer this winter due to lack of gas and Putin knows this.
It’s only a matter of time before Ukraine are forced to accept some sort of **** deal by the EU, to get Russian gas flowing again.
Just my two cents.
You will not. You will stay here and continue to ridicule Putin and his murderous band of orcs. And infuriate all the Putin bots that join here from time to time.
It was a Lucky Strike.
*it is a brand of cigarettes. I'll see myself out.
This is the problem both countries face in any bit of territory: you can cut off supply routes and ensure the other side can't rule it effectively. But if the territory switches hands they can do exactly the same to you. It's a nightmare scenario as long as there is no extreme imbalance in military capabilities.
And I read somewhere yesterday (BBC?) that some Ukrainian defence people said they're not in a position to try and retake Kherson right now, they don't have the troops. Which suggests both sides are having some serious difficulties reinforcing and the war may well continue to slide into an ugly, futile stalemate.
Russian soldiers have complained to the military watchdog about being tricked into joining the frontline in Ukraine. So, some of those young lads don't even know they are in the Ukraine until they are on the front line! 10 years from now, those Russians who survive Putins madness will feel nothing but discontent for mother russia.
"This is what everyone who defends our state and helps Ukraine should think about – how to inflict the greatest possible losses on the occupiers in order to shorten the war." Zelensky.
Interesting thread on implications of the airfield strike
it was protected by two overlapping s400 battalions…
edit: stuff exploding in Belarus now!
It's beginning to smell more and more like a consensus decision has been made to prevent Russia from succeeding.
I think the message to Putin is: "We'll keep ramping up by just enough, so the longer you keep this going, the more your military gets depleted"
^ 500km range? That would have the Kremlin absolutely freaked if true.
I'm now hearing that the missile system may have been a Hrim. Covertly funded by Saudia Arabia, mind you. Range 500km.
Was in R&D up to 2019. Government was due to start recieving them in 2021.
Looking likely.
More info:
Hrim-2 (Ukrainian: «Оперативно-тактичний ракетний комплекс «Грім»), also known as Grіm-2, Grom (Thunder), or Sapsan[1], is a Ukrainian prospective mobile short-range ballistic missile system being developed by Pivdenne Design Office and A.M. Makarov Southern Machine-Building Plant, planned to combine the features of tactical missile complexes and multiple rocket launchers. The missile range for the export version is 280 kilometers, limited by the Missile Technology Control Regime limiting the proliferation of missiles and missile technology. Technically, the missile range is up to 500 km.[2] Reportedly the missile system research and development has been covertly financed by Saudi Arabia.[3]
Hrim-2
Grom tactical missile
Type
Tactical ballistic missile
Place of origin
Ukraine
Service history
In service
TBA
Used by
Ukrainian Ground Forces
Production history
Manufacturer
Pivdenne Design Office , YuMZ Pivdenmash , PMZ pavlovo , hartron Lorta
Specifications
Warhead
500 kg (1,100 lb)
Engine
Single-stage solid propellant
Operational
range
50 km (31 mi)-400–500 km (250–310 mi)
Sapsan during the rehearsal for Independence Day parade in Kyiv
The first test launch of the new tactical missile was scheduled for the second half of 2019. Due to lack of funding from the central government the project was frozen in 2019 at the phase of testing. Financial funding was resumed in 2021 and the MOD of Ukraine hoped to be able to buy the first systems at the end of 2022.
Here's an assessment of the "strike" on Crimea.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1557182534651346944
Yep. Looking back at it now,you're probably correct.
And the simple logic of calories. Colder weather - body burns more calories - needs more food. They were looting supermarkets for food and cooking dogs in Bucha in March.
All of that, plus Western weapons and intelligence which are now making a serious impact on the russians.
Less cover from foliage, heat signatures much easier to spot. Hard ground makes tracked vehicle movement easier, makes digging trenches much harder. Given state of Russian troops kit, I wouldnt fancy being them in an Ukranian winter. They were coming down with frost bit in spring this year
Well, it does look like Russia was able to reinforce Kherson before Ukraine could launch a larger offensive. If Ukraine can keep the bridges cut, then maybe they'll be able to retake Kherson - but after that it's them who need to cross the big river. They can't really take any big risks with counterattacks, it's a fight for survival after all.
Almost did, if you are thread banned on boards how can you post? I seen another in the last few days do similar.
Yes, it is a BS post. I wonder what these people for a living as they are clearly lacking in intellect.
Before responding to an obvious BS post, check page 1 of the thread and don't waste time on a thread banned poster.
What are the Russians going to be Equipped with ? If I were the Ukrainians I would be stripping every dead soldier of their kits keeping it or destroying it. As I cant imagine Russian weapons in storage are not rusting at this stage or missing valuable part. Ammo for example has a use by date. Weapons have to be rotated cleaned maintained. Springs for example degrade. All well and good saying they may have stores. But it's the condition.
Must have been a whole cigar emporium
BS
I believe it was 60 people 'at the airfield' were killed and 100 injured. So that could be anyone who happened to be there at that moment.
Sounds like it was a huge attack though, with devastating results.
Too early to trust any source at the moment but that's the figure that's being put out.
Here's another image
What will be the implications of winter? Russia avoided winter as an invasion time and began the invasion at the start of spring. Would awaiting winter be advantageous for the Ukrainians?
What's the source for the 60 dead pilots?
Aftermath of strike in Crimea
Russia lied!
Cigarettes cant do that!!! It must have been cigars!!!!
Satellite images from Crimea
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