So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
Because no politician has the balls to introduce them. There were huge complaints when speeding fines were doubled recently, along the lines of "how can they do this during a cost of living crisis". Now look at the complaints about this disruption to cars in Fairview. There would be pandemonium if somebody had the sense to introduce red light cameras in Ireland.
could you imagine all the "but the cyclists break red lights!!" whingeing that would surface
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It isn't a "kip" and if it were a few cosmetic changes wouldn't be transformative.
Yeah, it's a bit of a kip alright. It badly needs these improvements. Even if there was no cycle lane added.
Pat Kenny had that gem lined up from a mile away this morning. Unfortunately the green Councillor didn't hit back with the article from that red light camera trial in Smithfield that caught more cars than bikes breaking red lights.
For a second, I thought those cyclists travelling illegally were DPD & Go-Car vans
Bikes and busses have to share the same space on the road now, which isn't great. And I can only imagine that vehicles driving it, that shouldn't be, will only increase. So they'll be driving in a hurry, and putting people in danger. As can be see by the GoCar van that overtook me. He was driving really close and aggressive for the whole time.
Gardai should have been out today to send a message.
She did pretty well apart from that. Put Pat firmly back in his box when he was desperately trying to turn it into cyclists v local residents
The difference is that cars are mostly running through empty red lights. Cyclists are blasting through pedastrian crossings that are full of people.
I walk through Dublin city every morning and I have to tell off cyclists for blasting through when I have right of way as a pedestrian. I almost got run over by cyclists five times in the last six months (and once by a car).
Motorists know they would be up in court for vehicular manslaughter if they drove as dangerously as many cyclists do.
I had cause to drive through fairview this evening at about 6 on a journey between cabra and clontarf. Traffic in the usual bottlenecks eg phibsboro and Dorset St were VERY quiet. Fairview also very quiet. It was very slightly busier than usual heading east, just east of Alfie Byrne Road which tells me more people are going east of North Strand/ Amiens St. And needless to say the chaos predicted by some didn't appear indeed quite the opposite, it had a traffic calming effect. I also noticed through Ballybough and Fairview, a MASSIVE increase in cyclists.
Your first sentence is complete fabrication. Maybe the city centre is a different beast but in the suburbs, it is no longer safer to drive when you’re light goes green because there will inevitably be at least three vehicles drive through an opposing red light. It used to be just cars but lately it’s everything: buses, HGVs, the lot.
Cyclists absolutely should obey red traffic lights or at least ones where other road users are around but the danger of a car barrelling through a red light is orders of magnitude more because of their weight.
There would be funerals every other week if cars were blasting through red lights at the last second the way cyclists do in the city centre. I am not jumping out of the way of cars generally so these statistics, or the way they're presented, aren't the full story imo.
Yes cyclists might not kill someone if they hit them so it's potentially a lot less serious. Maybe that's why they do it? They know they won't be facing down a 10 year sentence for vehicular manslaughter.
I was today years old when I learned that. I don't like that section (and much of annesley bridge road in general). I only knew the hardware shop as the "Rustin's building"
Any examples of a driver in Ireland convicted of vehicular manslaughter and getting 10 years in prison?
Whatever the sentence is usually then. My point is the same.
I walk, cycle a bicycle and drive a car.
As a fit cyclist I have the energy to stop at a red light and then accelerate again quickly when it goes green - which can be knackering physically, especially at first. The lazy option is to keep pedalling or rolling along all the time and let pedestrians yield or jump out of the way regardless of green or red.
I also walk, cycle and drive.
However I think you'll find drivers in Ireland rarely receive prison sentences for careless or dangerous driving. I'll be interested to see the pathetic excuse for a sentence that will be handed down to the lady that recently severed a Garda's foot after she did a hit and run while over the blood alcohol limit.
Cyclists should not be breaking red lights and it absolutely is a problem, but this is simply not even remotely true. Motorists who have in fact killed people almost never face vehicular manslaughter charges, they generally get a slap on the wrist and maybe a couple years off the road.
was wondering how long it would be before the thread descended into cyclists v drivers and red light breaking
every. single. time.
"I'm a cyclist myself!"
A bicycle isn't a political prop for green mushheads, its a vehicle and people should be able to control it properly if they're taking it onto a road.
I mean you're talking absolute bollocks in this thread about being "nearly" hit by cyclists, the usual nonsense.
This is what happens when drivers break red lights, and you don't even go to jail.
Drivers should be held to a higher standard. They kill people due to negligence and bad driving on a regular basis.
No it is a real problem when people cannot trust using pedestrian crossings because the green man has become meaningless and they must dodge traffic.
Lenient to nonexistent sentences are a problem across the board. I have no idea how you can kill someone and get a slap on the wrist, its craziness.
You know, you're right. Cyclists should be forced to pass a test. That way, well know that they will never break a traffic law!
Now please let's stop with this off topic line and get back on topic!
Decided to cycle into the office through Fairview this morning instead of my usual route over Alfie Byrne Road.
A Hyundai Ioniq driver decided he is the most important man in Dublin and left the traffic lane around Wright's of Marino, spent the rest of his journey in the bus lane through Fairview and North Strand.
Not a Garda to be seen anywhere from the end of Howth Road to the 5 Lamps.
Never seen the Howth Road as quiet in the morning.
Fairview traffic was at its usual level (appreciate there is now 1 less lane for private vehicles). When the usual September 1st traffic returns it will be heavily backed up. Jayu concern about buses from Malahide and Howth Road having access to the city is valid.
This morning I saw the most amount of cyclists on the new greenaway to the back of the Convention Centre that I've ever seen, great to see.
Lovely morning to be on the bike instead of in a car.
Richmond road a disaster this morning, traffic backed up onto Grace Park road
it's probably the quietest fortnight in the year for traffic, though.
Awful road in general, like a country laneway
What was the main cause of the delay there - the light sequence too short at the petrol station or too many cars coming from Fairview Strand blocking access for traffic on Richmond Rd? Or people slow to move off (e.g. because of phone use)? Or it was just one of those days where more people chose to drive that route?
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