So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
I'm just surprised that nobody has made the claim that the fire engines won't be able to travel towards town so people will die because of these cycle lanes!
Not sure where you'd get sriracha chicken on the North Strand anyway. A spice bag maybe. Or methadone on Amiens St.
Cyclists = hipsters. That's the best one I've ever heard. Ffs. Any infrastructure upgrade to this city is to be welcomed and a step in the right direction to get those who are taking unnecessary journeys away from their cars. Although I certainly disagree with how it's been handled from a communication standpoint.
sorry, have cars been banned?
a few hours ago it was 'i can't buy an amp in the city centre'. now it's about disabled and elderly people not able to leave their homes.
You do realise that the thousands of people who use the bus along this route will also benefit from this project through faster journey times as a result of buses and cyclists no longer sharing the same space?
Just shows she's fallen for the culture war the media tries to put out there where anyone on a bike is a posh hipster. My dad cycled through there for decades and luckily lives to tell the tale, as did I. You don't get that many hipsters where I'm from.
That last point is such a stupid take. If they were having pints would it be better? And the few closed off streets in Dublin city centre have been a massive success so far. To be honest it feels like there's a resentment that goes far beyond the private vehicle diversions...
Mrs Shuttleworth's post would be a fair representation of what I have been hearing on the local forums in the last few days.
There is no logic to the posts at all. It is mostly vague all encompassing rage. Definitely not representative of the general population as all seem to be in the 60+ demographic.
I love how you are just massively erasing the fact that cycling into town is by far the cheapest way of commuting.
Also, those journeys are a minority of overall journeys into town by private transport. Also they won't be stopped, they can still do it.
That's just lame and shows you hold people on bikes in contempt. You do realise it's not just cycle lanes going in, other works are making up the bulk of the cost.
So you bought the whole line about this just being for a cycle lane then. Maybe read behind the click bait headline
and this is a short stretch, only blocked in one direction, with alternative routes for all the tradesmen that you’re taking about
that’s just as bad an argument as the “but we can’t go into town to buy our washing machines” one
I don't think you understand, that the capacity to increase the DART frequency further with existing tracks and signals, is nil.
And even if it were, the NTA and Iarnród Éireann take no lead from the City Council as to what services to provide and when.
Many posters here seem to have led very charmed lives. No need for repair men who by their trade have to drive vans not bicycles to access their homes and carry equipment; no dependent relatives with disabilities who need to be transported by car; no jobs as carers with definite hourly commitments to look after the elderly living at home. No. Instead we have to spend 60million euro so some hipsters can get faster into town to sit on closed off streets eating sriracha chicken wings on the pavement.
I find the reporting so frustrating. As I understand it, the reason it will take a year is the water main rehabilitation piece, but gotta rant about cycle lanes....
like who are these people? even my anti cycle lane friends I grew up with in D5 are all saying it's crazy etc but none of them ever drive to town. My parents never did. Yet we'll have angry gobshites all over the media saying it's causing mayhem for residents.
Great news this. Close it off for good bar public transport and taxis. They would need to increase the dart to every 10mins.
I am in very regularly during the morning peak and for the last 15 years have wondered why and who the people were going bumper to bumper taking literally 45 minutes to do 1.5km to the city centre? It’s really crazy stuff.
This diversion will cause delays, but merely move them onto a different route which was somewhat quieter before this.
Nobody I know from D5 drives into town at peak hour, you’d be mad to before this and mad to after this.
I’d love to see a congestion charge put in next for the canals to only enter if you are a resident or carrying out a specific duty or public transport. Time for our city centre to be rid of people driving a single person to a parking space in town bypassing all the public and active travel options.
Yes.
Are they stopping the parking on Fairview Strand? That would considerably help things.
Will a left turn from Annesley Avenue onto North Strand be compulsory?
Springgarden street and North William Street are the only feasible 'rat runs' to avoid doing the big loop round Edge's corner (Charleville is one way the 'wrong way' and Bayview is just way too narrow) but with this going on for so long and the schools in North William Street I can see them making that one way too to stop putting children at risk. Springgarden Street is already a pig of a street to get out of onto Ballybough Road. I wouldn't fancy being the person who tries to solve all those pinch points that will appear.
LIDL expected to start building their new shop on Ballybough Road soon too. Jakers it will add to the fun.
I can see the 123 bus having terrible delays with this. I wonder are they going to re-route part of it?
Had the information leaflet arrive in the letterbox today. Spoke with two neighbours, who are going to take the Dart now instead of driving. Both didn't need to drive to work anyway, but chose to.
Yeh, saw that. Would expect nothing more at this stage from our click bait media
This is what I can't fathom. There have been way more significant diversions in Dublin over the years. How long was Dawson Street closed for? Not nearly as many fatwas issued
because it is being primarily reported as being for a cycle lane, if it was for road widening or something they'd all be ok with it
Just saw that it’s not even both ways. it’s only closed inbound. Outbound is as normal. Way too much being made of this for what will be a substantially improved stretch of road
c'mon lads, take it elsewhere or just leave it - it's tiresome.
It was an offhand comment that taking 30 mins to cycle can not be explained by red lights.
I am not doubting that it takes you 25+ mins. But considering google thinks it takes 18 and they tend to be pretty conservative, and that it used to take me far less than 25 I regret to inform you that you are not in fact an above average cyclist in terms of capabilities. Nothing wrong with that of course, everyone should go at their own pace.
Thank you for answering a question that I didn't ask! Maybe you would like to answer the one I actually did ask?
What shops in the city centre even sell large white goods anymore?
Arnotts - prefer to deliver. From Malahide where the franchisee for the electrical shop is actually based.
DID on Mountjoy Square. Who deliver and is tiny anyway
Currys in Jervis. Mostly sells brown goods (that's a ridiculously dated term these days)
That's about it surely?
is that directed at me? what did I say that was based in fiction?
Logic when it suits, "25 minute walk alternatives" that are based in fiction and contradicted by linked evidence, when it doesn't....
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