I can't find a definition of "shore" that corresponds to that with a quick google. We always said "shore" around here
My grandfather used to call Ragwort plants "Bulky shans" or "Bulky shants". I googled that just now and found a few hits on duchas.ie from old reports by schoolchildren. I think maybe that maybe comes from a bastardisation of Irish.
Google tells me the Irish for ragwort is buachalán or buachalán buí
There's a grand tune - a reel called 'Up Against the Buachaláns'. Some poor fella probably came up with it one day years ago when he was sent off to clear a few fields of them!
Here it is, among other names - https://thesession.org/tunes/964
We're picking them in a field along the motorway atm. Just throwing the ones we pick across the fence
geosadán is what we knew them as growing up
Many the day we were sent off back to the big field picking them. Hated it.
Same but I would had thought it was”yo-sadans”
Could be, but geosadán is what's sticking in my head from back then.
geosadán, m. (gs. & npl. -áin, gpl. ~).1. (a) Soft thistle. (b) Thin, withered, stalk (of thistle, ragweed). 2. (a) Thin, weedy, person. (b) Vain, showy, person. (Var:geosandán)
Which would seem to be more describing thistles or ragweed.
Then again in North Kerry sure we probably just used it as a catch all for thistles, ragworth and anything else your having 😁😁
I said last year I would never pull another one, fully intending to winter spray with 2-4d. Didn't happen, might tackle them tomorrow, should be easier after the rainfall we've had this weekend.
We pronounce them "buu-la-hawns" here in east Clare.
open the link.
To the right of the Loudspeaker icon, click for pronunciations, C for Connaught, M for Munster or U for Ulster
https://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/ragwort
Anyone see much Cinnabar caterpillars on them this summer so far?? Seems to be a slow year for them my end, I guess the poor summer so far here in the NW hasn't helped:(
It was the same in Kerry. The colour was added at the end
Buchaillin Bui
Plenty on what we're pulling atm
I leave those ones alone, the larvae strip them bare
Do they do it in time before it goes to seed?
Is there a recipe you could trust somewhere....is it leaf or stem?
Curious now...
Had one plant only this year. When I went to pull it last week it was crawling with black/yellow caterpillars. Let it be. It was fully flowered.
Only one?
Would you be interested in a few more? I could do you a good deal on them. Unlimited supply
Forgot. There was another.
I'm vigilint!
Yes, if you remove all others, when they run out of ragwort to eat they turn on each other.
You'd hear cases of it - and not just in the insect world.
Sounds like Irish politics ..... or all politicians for that matter.
I only had about 2 or 3 wheelbarrow fulls this year. When I first started pulling them years ago I pulled a few 10 x 6s
I see farmer phil has bought 2 goats lately for weed control. Apparently they will eat everything except for grass, so nettles thistles and ragworth too!
I've a good bit of it this year in one field only, I cleared all the rest of it in the rest of the place but left the one field for a bit of diversity, ragwort is a very rich plant for insects and bees, and the cinnabar of course, but it provides an important food source to a lot of things so i leave it bloom away the years it comes, there's a fine healthy crop in it this year too
My uncle always called them Yo-sadans.
I've always thought what you've posted there myself. Yes it's illegal to have them growing on land, but stock as we know won't eat them unless near starved on a field, this i would think is a very different thing to way back in the day when the law was brought about. Grass is a very abundant thing nowadays on most land through manure & fertiliser over decades long.
Be interesting if in time the law is dropped from the view of insects e.t.c that avail of ragwort plants. It's not as if it's strictly enforced now anyhow .
is she still alive!,,,,,,!.?
I saw her this morning, honey suckle she was picking. Makes fine wine with it.
I never seen any animal here to eat them and never heard of it locally either
Problem with ragwort is you cannot top with it. Therefore not only dose ragwort become a problem.so do other weeds. You can as well end up with butts of grass remaining on the ground which cattle are slower to graze
