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I'm going to blame it on my 0600 hours pre caffeine eyes when I initially read this, but I thought it said "Mary Lou McDonald" and thought, well she would say that, wouldn't she.
Not quite the Headlines FFGG were hoping for this morning, universal displeasure. The contrived past few days hasn't gone quite to plan, they are all looking like fools.
Lots of coverage so no need to add links, Green senators, TDS bitching, government TDs too.
Is Micheal still in Japan and that why he wasn't about for any press conferences yesterday?
What about Leo? Is he away too or did he do a runner after the deal?
Any sign of Paschal?
Interesting fallout on the climate change targets.
McConalogue is dancing around the topic of reducing the herd. He knows it needs to reduce to make the targets but he wont actually say it. It's priceless.
The chair of the Climate Change Advisory Council said the numbers do not add up. The Act specified 51% reduction in emissions but the new plan only shows 43%. She also has no faith in the forestry plans - she said they already had a plan to increase forestry by 8000 hectares a year but they are only hitting 2000 a year over the past few years.
MM back since last Monday I believe, I'd like to comment re yesterday's press conference but as Per Mods advisory which I respect, we should saty clear as not Thread related 😏
I have always thought that the AIB stroke would cause long term damage. The climbdown was swift but FFG will be reminded over and over again how they prioritised the bank's profits over citizens yet again. It will be pure gold material in GE.Next. How long will Paschal avoid questions on it?
The take home from the whole fiasco is 'climate change can wait', it has all been ineffectualy window dressed and lipserviced because seats in the Dáil are more important.
I'm struggling to see it any differently TBH.
I reckon the past few days partially deflected from Paschals woes, he's been extraordinaryly quite over the past week but I don't think the AIB story finished just yet 😏
Completely agree and the contrived nonsense over the past week was absurd and ultimately achieved little 😏
Any agreement which has everyone unhappy they didn't get all they wanted is a good one!
Ryan getting a good grilling on Claire Byrne .
Voice starting to go up in register trying to explain.
Listening to him. I can't imagine how much all this is going to cost the average person!!!
Ah that old face saving cliche.
So you are not happy with the 25% figure.
What figure would you and your pals like?
Nah, the bottom proposed option was 22%, the top one was 30%. They argued for three days from different positions, so it doesn't take much of a leap to predict all the discontent on a compromise deal that the media would dig up.
They can tell agri to cut by 25% but all the targets are unattainable! There is no way some sectors will reach their targets by 2030. What ER is talking about on the radio now is going to cost billions upon billions. It will never happen.
This.
Will be hard for the opposition to come in, in the next few years and say that they are going to get rid of these legal limits.
The main opposition party take their climate briefings from the likes of UKIP, ie. Climate Change Denial.
However, lots of young people will be voting for them in the next election, so how will that stack up?
It wont, hence why not one person here will give us their own figure.
That is for a thread on the environment.
I am here to discuss the political shenanigans.
What my view of what it should be or yours is entirely irrelevant.
I am not a policy maker, I am a policy reciever.
I agree in the normal context of nego and compromise but in my humble opinion the contrived nature of the past few days squabbling was more about each party being seen to throw shapes, trying to out do each other as to who'll come out looking the Victor.
Ultimately its been an embarrassing spectle, has achieved little and whatever games were being played they all look like fools.
Intriguing MM and Leo nowhere to be seen at yesterday's rather embarrassing press conference.
The main Opposition issue, apart from no climate policy at all, is that they are wedded to abolishing carbon tax, something that needs to be part of the equation.
That deal with Brazil has yet to be ratified and looks at least to have run into serious issues due to the changes in Europe electing more Green candidates.
Which is ironic. Irish farmers were up in arms about it yet it was the wider Green movement that will probably stop it.
It was only to agree targets and they have now done that. A little done, lots more to do as they say!
We might be, not we would be.
https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/eu-mercosur-trade-deal-clear-environmental-hurdles-this-year-eu-commissioner-2022-05-02/
You know that it has all been an embarassing waste of time when you see the concerted efforts to talk about the opposition.
The fact is, this has been a shallow game of political football, with the politics being infinitely more important than the environment. (not that it matters, but the opposition played it politically too)
A climbdown/capitulation from the Greens, a cling to the farming vote from FF FG. The environment/climate change can wait.
If you want to stop the EU - Mercosur Free Trade Agreement, you are better off voting for the Greens Francie.
Then again, not surprised you want protectionist policies for Ireland, UKIP tried to do the same for Britain. Correlation? ;)
Was that that what the past number of days farce was about, it was so convoluted, All over the place and dragged out I thought it was negotiations to form a new government or perhaps something of immediate importantance , say for example a number of immediate urgent crisis.
I'm being fictitious of course 😏
Werent you giving out about inflation and the cost of living, yet you want to maintain high prices for food?
Makes total sense, doesn't it?
Precisely, this is how I view the past few days of nonsense 😏
She also rightly pointed out that SF has gone on holiday in regards Climate Change and this is another example of it. Where is MLMD and CO.? They are normally shouting nonstop? Are they in Spain, on their holidays? They won't be able to rock up in government and undo this by the way, well unless they want to take a big big political hit.
Any comment on the deal itself, or do you need someone else to tell you what to think?
