She was going at 35 mph. with a good good view of the road ahead.
You would probably cycle faster than that on that road
she needs to shake it off
Why are you using mph? She was doing 61 km/h (which is nearly 38mph).
did she brake, or did the car just skid off the road? Definitely get those tyres checked
And this ladies and gentlemen is why you can't post dashcam videos here, calling someone's mother an idiot instead of discussing the actual skid/spin 🙄
I have deleted the nonsense replies. OP I'd be checking the tyres on your car, shouldn't be stepping out like that at 35mph.
Didn't look when pulling out, didn't look when reversing and no reaction to the horn (muted for phone call).
Although there may be problems with the OPs tyres, I thought the speed was a bit high for the conditions. Look at the road after the spin. Apart from a small part at the edges, most of it was black and smooth. That wet layer of melted tar wouldn't be much different to ice. Also, not sure if the OP's mother was following the car in front or not. Blindly following another car in poor conditions can lead to a false sense of security, especially if they have better tyres/drive/driver. The lead car to me seemed to be pushing on, the back end looked twitchy early on in the video when cresting.
If I had to put money on it, it looks to me like classic lift-off oversteer on a poor surface.
Much damage? What did they say when they got out, oops, I didn't see you?
€350 bumper repair. Only discovered after I got the money that the lower tone horn stopped working but they're inexpensive so I'll just pay for it when it's getting fixed so I don't need to wait around. Also had to align the driver side headlight.
I was thinking along the same lines too.
The front tyres were replaced with brand new ones back in February and the back ones still have plenty of thread for those wondering.
That bend is normally fine at that speed, even OK up to 80KM/h if you feel like chancing it when coming the other way and have a clear view, but it was bucketing down rain when she took the turn (the wipers were on full speed) and had been for some time beforehand. That, combined with the tar coming to the surface with the hot weather recently and the road would be slick as you please, I'd say she just oversteered off the road because she was probably braking/accelerating while also turning. The tyres could hold on no longer with those conditions.
As a mod are you not supposed to be impartial? deleting posts because you don't like the narrative is counter intuitive to that surely?
As a mod deleting fluff or non-sense is part of the role. Thats got nothing to do with impartiality.
Very good point on road condition - plenty of dry hot weather on roads in summer will result in rubber build up on the roads along with an element of tar melt and subsequent slicking on some road surfaces. No probs in dry conditions but the first heavy rainfall will turn the surface into an ice rink.
OP your mum dealt really well in reacting to the situation once the slide started, fair play to her.
So you should have also deleted the fluff about the OP's ma being the one driving no as that was clearly fluff and non sense no to any one with half a mind????
But what brand are they?
New tyres should go on the back especially on a front wheel drive.
Your tyre fitter should have advised this, but probably too busy or lazy to switch the wheels.
Had he switched the wheels rear to front with new ones at the back your Mum would not have lost her rear end.
Totally irrelevant point. The tyres at the front are 5 months old and not "new".
For my track cars ill always put my new tyres on the back with the style of driving / hard cornering. On a mundane road car you are much better off with new tyres on the front as 90% of your grip scenarios are straight line breaking.
5 months ago the tyres were new, and as such, should have been put on the rear wheels.
@AirBiscuit do your own research before your mammy drives that car again.
Again irrelevant for the situation above - she didnt have "new" tyres on the rear with poorer grip than the front and it had no bearing on the slide.
I give everyone who drives a normal family car within speed limits to put fresher tyres on the front, the extra grip is much more valuable in an emergency braking scenario than the off chance of the rear pushing out under extreme cornering.
Ohhh look - no new videos
" she didnt have "new" tyres on the rear with poorer grip than the front and it had no bearing on the slide."
she didnt have "new" tyres on the rear with poorer grip than the front and it had no bearing on the slide."
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
No have I any clue what you're on about either.
Do my research? I'm not aiming for a nobel prize winning discovery, nor did I tell the dedicated tyre seller how to do his job: I just told him that the front tyres are near the wear marker and they need replacing, how is it on me the way he replaced them?
You're making out as if I was the guy with the tyre replacement machine who fucked it up on my own.
You're also assuming the back tyres are knackered, they're not. They have plenty to go before the wear level indicators too.
Finally, from the very link you posted it says better tyres on the rear axle is more likely to favour understeer. Look at the footage again and tell me which would have the better outcome in that situation, oversteer or understeer (those 2 large grey things and dirt bank on the left of the road might help with the answer here)
At any rate, back on topic: look at the guy in my lane weave through traffic to drive right through a red light
Ok @AirBiscuit, all I'll say is the car in front of your mum had no problem with ("those 2 large grey things and dirt bank on the left of the road)"
("those 2 large grey things and dirt bank on the left of the road)"
Edit;
Was that your mum driving in the video from the 2nd?
Would you ever give over
Words because I can't post without text.
Ok, Fritz,
on we go.
Urm.. what am I not seeing?
In the first 10 seconds of the video the Silver/Beige car in my lane goes through a red light when everyone else has stopped
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