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Jesus that's awful news....was on that stretch of road yesterday evening around 7pm.
Condolences to family and friends
Awful news.
Seems to be a problem with the link KM. Tragic news, thinking of the poor families and friends.
May they Rest In Peace :(
Deleted a couple of posts. As PARlance said above, it's probably best to leave out any speculation of this nature until there's something official.
@padd b1975 Just a thought but if that accident only happened late last night, it mightn't be public knowledge and might be best to delete for now?
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Kerry saved Mayo some serious embarrassment today. But it seems likely that Galway will go on to win Sam first and humiliate Mayo.
Watched the second half of Crossmolina and Parke last nite. Parke are a serious outfit, move the ball, have lads who can kick a point maybe a little light. They destroyed Cross
Yeah. Attitude from the Wexford players and county board was a shambles. He wasn't going to waste his time in with a self sabotaging group.
He was in this year with Kildare and got decent reviews.
If Galvin was brought in as a selector/coach I'd expect Mayo to change their game plan totally. Much like Jack O'Connor, Galvin is mad about kick passing and is very sharp on attacking movement.
Did Galvin not walk away halfway through his term in Wexford? Cant see him offering much tbh
In my opinion Stephen Rochford was our best manager this century but if it is true he is putting together a team with Donie Buckly I hope they dont get it. Been there, done that. I think we need a clean slate. New thinking. Stephen Rochford stil has loads to offer but wait another 2/3 years and it will be a clean slate for him as most of his last squad will be finished.
There are various names going around but at the end of the day its down to whom the backroom is. Manager and 2 others is the key. If Paul Galvin is part of Raymonds team then thats a super start. A winner and also intercounty management experience. Havent really heard who anyone else has. I have heard John Maughan mentioned as backroom for another canditate but not sure if i believe the person who told me!
If Rochford gets in then since John Maughan was appointed in 95(?) the Mickey Moran year is the only year we have had a manager who had one term. All others from 1995 are two term (I am giving Pat Holmes first term credit for his joint manager year)
Brian Cody is at a loose end
From the mayo news podcast it seems the committee can approach people and see if they are interested as well as clubs putting forward names.
But everyone has to approve their name going forward.
From a reliable source?
Can someone remind me how it works, is it public knowledge who has put themselves forward when it gets that far?
The latest i heard was that Galvin was going in with Dempsey
Apparently Rochford is putting together a ticket that potentially includes Donie Buckley.
That would be a nice full forward line alright. But do we have a good enough playmaker further out the pitch to supply decent ball in - taking into account that most counties have some form of sweeper in place. Will we be depending on half backs again breaking forward at every given chance. If there is no out-ball available to the inside forwards (because of being bottled up and quantity of numbers back), do we have half forward who can shoot with regular accuracy from 35/40 yards out to beat the blanket defence.
I don't know. Wish I had the answers. One option maybe be to play ROD in the half forwards, and keep Jack Carney full forward, flanked by COC and T Conroy.
I think that's the biggest change that has to happen if we are to progress, we need our forwards to do more scoring!
Totally agree.
Horan moved Mayo football to another plane in 2011, Rochford built on that when Horan had done his time.
Then Horan came back to start again.
But we need something fresh now.
They need to be able to vary the system and get the best out of the type of players we have now, not try to get them to adapt to the system that worked so well for the players in the past.
We need to look at the defense. What Kerry did this year in sorting their backs out is what Mayo should be aiming to do.
And they need to get forwards kicking points and scoring goals.
During one of the Mayo News podcasts around the end of last year it was suggested that a full forward line of Cillian, ROD and Conroy could totally change the emphasis of Mayo football.
Unfortunately we didn't get to see it in 2022, and I'm worried that the years and injuries are taking a greater toll on Cillian.
But hopefully we will get to see it from those three and maybe a few others.
That's why we need a new manager that has not already been there.
Would have been all for that myself not so long ago but I really think we just need a completely fresh approach now.
New management team, new ideas, new lease of life, hopefully.
Would like to see Rochford given another go at it down the line but the cycle needs to be broken first imo.
I would love to see Rochford give it another go, but i think it would be too soon right now!
Surely Rochford had his chance already? Probably should have won with Mayo that time previously when they had a class team.
Bonner gone from Donegal so I guess that leaves Rochford at a loose end (?)...would he make a good coach to support the likes of Solan/Dempsey?
Was at the ladies' game on Saturday, decent enough performance in parts and the scoreline probably wasn't a fair reflection of the game. Three of the goals were poor/unlucky for our point of view and really made the difference in the end. Lisa Cafferky was excellent, constantly out in front and often winning balls when up against 2 kerry players. Overall a decent year considering the amount of players lost to Aussie Rules.
It was interesting that Meath & Donegal played a much more defensive system in the 2nd game, Meath had everyone behind the ball while Donegal only kept 1 up when Meah had the ball. In our game, we kept 3-4 up all the time while Kerry kept 1-3 up while we had the ball.
We can all be smart arses when needs be and you too (i won't leave you out), but we need to be honest and blatantly turning a blind eye when you have mentioned a lot of fans have questioned the same. I never said a center back has to blast over a load of points but you have to bring an attacking aspect to your game. I would have argued he should have been dropped with Mullen to CB and O'Hara in the full back line. It is more attacking imo and we needed to get back to that space as our forwards this year were not scoring enough and with our two main forwards out(ROD and TC). I will leave it at that as I don't want to offend anyone.
But to your point, how do you know he used to take it on himself to roam??
Muddle84 as regards AOS I think he used to take it on himself to roam! The good of the team and Mayo at heart at all times....when maybe he should have stuck to a particular spot.I think he can still offer something.I saw him kick the ball over the bar for fun in the warm up in McHale Park in one of the games this year and I hoped he would do this when the game started but apart from one effort he didn't!
Regarding COC,no doubt he had his finest season a few years back when he came back from another bad,long injury and he WAS fully fit and a total joy to watch.I ,as you say,think he is not up to speed yet after his latest injury and perhaps I was a bit unfair saying that he is a 20 minute man now at most.A fit Cillian is a joy to watch....but he MUST be fit! Then it comes down to management I suppose but playing an unfit player no matter who he is does the team no favours. Remember Jack O'Conor was about to pull David Clifford aside v Mayo as he was not working comfortably and we all know what happened a few minutes later! Its a percentages game at the top level nowadays.
I don't think Darren Coen is up to it to be honest. He doesn't always take the right option and, please correct me if i'm wrong, has he ever scored one of these long range points when we really needed them, when we were on the back foot and losing the game? We were already a point ahead and had Dublin on the ropes last year when he scored his point in extra time.
You have a bit of a contradiction there with the criticism of AOS in one hand but saying we all need to cop on and realise that things are happening in the panel that we are not privy to; how do we know he is told to stay where he is picked, how do we know he isn't told to roam all over the pitch?
I disagree on COC too, yes he has a lot of mileage and football played, but he only turns 30 this year. You could see he wasn't back to full fitness this year, but he is only returning from a serious injury. I would wait and see how he has when he has proper recovery time next year!!
....and what about Darren Coen,how come he did not get any game time.A man made for the big ocassion,always got the long range points in Croke Park,where was he ?
Its amazing that there are still a number of players 'hanging about' in the panel who never get anywhere near the playing field,they are obviously training well enough to merit being kept in the said panel, but why no game time.......?
Also,as regards AOS,he was his own worst enemy in many games in the past.Selected to play in a given position but roved all over the field,fine when you are young,fit and able but not nowadays.He put in some decent performances this year when he 'stayed' where he was picked to play.
Along with COC he must now realise that he is a 20 minute man at most....and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion but the players must realise it.
Can we as pundits and panelists cop on and realise that things are happening in the team panel that we are not privy to.We get to comment on what we see on the pitch during a 70+ minute game whereas management see the whole picture and we must believe that they are doing their utmost best to deliver on match day.Unfortunately rumours persist about favouritism etc and there is obviously no smoke without fire and it does no good to anyone only maybe rob us of some talented individual(s) who get fed up of the treatment and go elsewhere.
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