A work colleague looked at buying a similar church in Tipp about 10 years or so ago and they told me that they would be allowed to move the headstones and hang/fix them on the inside of the perimeter wall but not disturb the actual graves.
I believe that when churches are deconsecrated, the graves are relocated as part of the process.
Looking at the plans again your biggest issue might turn out to be the access. The entrance is right on a corner. Also several large pieces of the grounds are marked off (presumably graves) so putting in a water treatment system might be problematic. And a lot of the grounds have rights of way, not likely to be an issue in themselves but could have an effect on insurance?
Also if it is not on mains water you could have problems getting permission for a well with all those graves around. Might not be an issue if they are all old, but would have to be considered.
I was wondering if there was anyway you could use the pulpit for something. The benches could (potentially) restored and stuck outside.
I was thinking about how you would house-ify that church. Long corridor down the right side, living room at the nave, kitchen in the middle, bedroom/bathroom at the end. Small but you'd get the beautiful roof and windows. You could probably take the partition walls up to the underside of the roof for some soundproofing. I wouldn't add in a second floor. It could be stunning. But yeah, cost a fortune.
I love that building. Provided the roof is good (no woodworm/rot/beetles) then there is still a lot to do, but it could be gorgeous. Expensive though - the doors alone would have to be rebuilt and the ironmongery restored and transferred, and any interior work would have to be on the same substantial scale as the building. Underfloor heating, replastering with some sort of insulation to be considered and rewiring, restore the windows. How the interior could be divided up would need a lot of thought, but it could be lovely.
I can’t see anyone paying 3m for that I’m not sure what you would even do with it, getting to it is a pain aswell not to mention the complete lack of privacy .
That would be amazing in the right hands.
The graves remain undisturbed and I think there would be a right of way for anyone who wished to visit the graveyard, although I stand to be corrected on that.
€99,500 for a (very) run down church. I guess it would make a good recording studio.
If it was bought to be used as a house, any idea what happens to the graves? Are they moved or kept there?
I saw that room for pony house the other day too. One of the photos looks like lots of Japanese knotweed. Strange advert.
https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/detached-house-ballaghamore-lower-borris-in-ossory-co-laois/3985597
The land doesn't look good at all and it looks like there is a Japanese knotweed problem.
That 3m house is mental. Owner probably died and family are selling and it needs complete modernisation on top of your 3m. There was plenty of amazing places in this thread you could buy for that price. Yes it is on a prime location but any time you wanted to swimming it would be jammed. Want to sit outside and enjoy the weather be swamped with noises and people could see you too afaik as it isn't very private and for 3m I would want privacy.
That's who I thought of too, Hilda! 🤣
Room for a pony
You need planning to put in a water treatment system, I wouldn't take it on without at least asking about planning permission.
"Napoleons"
Probably only busy for 10 days a year though. And the area is full of scumbags.
In fairness, it is some site. Plonk a bar on top of that and you're laughing.
3m price tag is a shocking price for that.
Run. Run far away from that.
3-bed house, BER of B1, just over 1hr to Dublin Airport or Belfast, close to Newry and Dundalk for amenities, whats the catch?
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They sold one next door for nearly 3 times the price in March.
This may have been posted already. Apologies if it has…
Remember those shower hose attachments that went on the hot and cold taps? One second you scald yerself then you’re frozen ? Is that what this shower curtain/art installation in hiding?
40sqm isn't a small extension. It is difficult to get planning for a completely new house but that is a totally different proposition. If you try blunt force planning you will fail in most places. You need to be smart about it. Buy rebuild extend then apply for planning after that and it is possible even before building is finished
I know you dont need permission for a small extension however not many would be interested in doing that as the house is so close to the road - there would be no privacy.. Renovation is also sometimes more expensive than building from scratch. The large site at the back is what makes this property attractive - not the house.
Im in Meath. Sites like this with derelict properties are snapped up quick and often sell for big money to people who dont meet local needs criteria for planning. I know several people who have bought sites similar to this this with derelict houses in the hope of getting permission for a completely new house. Planners very often want them to keep the small house which often isnt a viable option in terms of cost and size.
The point is you don't need planning to rebuild on the existing foundation and can build a large extension. I am not aware of which counties don't allow you to build 40sqm extension without planning. What county are you talking about? If you are doing something more radical you will need planning permission. If their is an existing property it is a lot easier to do and while they tend to have elements of retaining a building I have never heard it as being overly strict.
Not sure what the demand for sites is like in Borris-in-Ossory but where I live (rural, 3km from small town) that's about the going rate for a 1.2 acre site without a derelict house on it for €70k. A site with a derelict house would probably make a bit more.
But yeah, the auctioneer is right, you'd want to be very handy to renovate that house. 😀
Planning permission Ray - thats what would stop you.
In the county I live in you would be told most of the time to renovate and extend the existing house rather than knocking it. They wont give permission for a completely new house further back on a site. The existing house is too near the road for my liking.
The hedgerow pictures really sell it. 😂
What would be stopping you from knocking it down other than a preservation order (which would be mentioned? After that you can build 40sqm extension without planning. What am I missing?
You would be paying for a site not a house. No guarantee that you could even knock the house and build a house further back.
And of course, they are delighted to bring it to market. They say it ideal for a handy person but also say it is derelict and need total refurbishment.
