And your still going to vote for them for the lols
Lightning strikes twice. Another mystery foreign donor has decided to give SF a large chunk of their will; this time a parks and recreation manager from Arizona has left them nearly 400k.
It’s a remarkable streak of good luck for Sinn Fein.
Do people often leave money in their wills to political parties?
Never heard of it before
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DUP tactics going well
Great to see the Alliance share growing. Finally a party who might be able to help the people of Northern Ireland after the failure of others for the last 24 years
Generally speaking, churches, cults, nursing homes and dog rescue facilities are the beneficiaries of such bequests. Your guess as to which category SF fits into.
The ongoing problems that Sinn Fein have with these issues have been mentioned on here many many times, before being shouted down by the usual fans. Another good republican's true colours are unmasked.
Any proof that these are the main benefactors of wills, a link or anything?
Have you an alternative thesis to suggest I am wrong?
Im just interested to see any proof that the main benefactors of wills are dog rescue facilities and cults. Quite surprised at that tbf
What exactly is the issue with the statement? if you google leaving a gift in will you see loads of links to RNLI, charities. Majority refer to charity. Plenty of solicitors who will offer advice
None mention a political party. It's not that hard to check this out.
I said i was surprised and asked the poster for the proof he/she had regarding this data. I assumed to make such a statement he/she may have a link handy
I never claimed it was untrue.
From Google i cannot find the data to show which section(s) of society received the most hence why i asked.
Proof? it's a discussion forum...
I am not trying to speak for the poster but just giving my opinion. It was a statement and I didn't see them say it was a fact, as I said a quick google would back up their opinion. Not sure why you need data?
The comment(part in bold)
I asked the poster had he any proof/data etc that generally dog rescue centres and cults are the main benefactors to wills.
If you don't have any link yourself to back up the claim, why are you replying to me other than to argue for no reason.
I think you are the one arguing for no reason.
I never disputed the claim, i said im surprised about it and asked for proof of it.
I am not disputing the claim either, so we must be in agreement that it is true.
Im shocked your not disputing a claim that you made you made yourself 😂😂😂😂😂
More good poll results for SF today in the 6 counties
If you can control the polls, you can control the narrative, this will suck up apathetic voters who just follow the perceived trend.
It doesn't matter what the North polls, it has to be agreed both sides of the border. Instead of SF trying to fix the issues in the North they think bundling it onto the Rep will solve all the issues, or get someone else to solve
In the recent polls in the Rep people said yes they would love a United Ireland BUT at no additional taxes. This is impossible because of the mess the North is in because of the likes of SF etc.
Also when you consider the high number of jobs in the public service in the North which would be made redundant once a United Ireland would happen that would be another huge expense that we cannot afford.
SF are aware of this and that is why SF have spent year dodging the question and not answering what would happen in a United Ireland.
What SF and supporters should be doing is try to resolve the issues in the North, not waffling about a United Ireland. Instead as we see on this thread, not a single discussion about the issues in the North and how SF are resolving them. Nah it's go on about a United Ireland and hope someone else does
Totally incompetent party
Also the poll is just a reflection of the change in Northern Ireland with the Catholic community growing, what the parties should be doing is making sure divides are not created in Ireland, trying to bring communities together. But no chance that will happen unless the likes of the Alliance contonue to grow
I never knew that a UI was a SF only issue.... who knew.
SF getting beaten around the place from pillar to post on their non-commital to carbon reductions.
They tried to get away with it but the gig is up now. Everyone from the academic community to An Taisce to pretty much every newspaper columnist having a go at them for their 'We hear and see nothing so we cant comment' nonsense.
And these guys are supposed to be in the next government?
How can you trust these guys when they don't have a position on arguably the biggest issue facing the planet?
Ahh here, it is like the 140k before additional tax and then suddenly 100k before additional tax. Incompetent at every level of the party.
Spend too much time flip flopping around to actually figure out what position they hold on any subject, the problem is if they hold a position it can get pulled to pieces which they have figured out, so now they hold no position on anything.
They want to reduce CO2, then they raise a motion to keep turf for sale etc
They want to get rid of carbon tax but in fact they don't want to get rid of carbon tax. They think they want to get rid of carbon tax increases
As someone said "whatever way the wind blows, Sinn Fein goes"
I mean, we all did. Glad to see you've accepted it finally. There's hope yet for the rest of the disingenuous Partitionists out there.
You mean FF, FG, Labour and the SDLP have no ambition for a UI?
FF (most of their elected reps and members do)
FG (only say they do, as they would lose votes otherwise)
Labour (who cares)
SDLP (of course they do)
Seems a bit of confusion then between both posts?
I also what about Green Party/PBP etc?
This is the full list from the Republic from 2020 but would expect the same.
Not sure from the North but the Alliance for one sits on the fence.
Fine Gael: The party’s full official title is “Fine Gael – The United Ireland Party”. So, yes based on the principle of consent and a majority, north and south, being in favour.
Fianna Fáil: Yes. A United Ireland is a founding goal of our party. We believe it should be achieved through consensus.
Sinn Féin: Yes.
Labour: Labour aspires to the unification of all the people on the island of Ireland, first and foremost, as the logical and necessary first step towards political unity. The best thing we can do to secure that now is to ensure the institutions of the Good Friday Agreement are fully operational.
People Before Profit: Yes we do.
Green Party: Yes.
The Social Democrats (From the party’s manifesto): We believe that a United Ireland, achieved by consent, has the real potential to benefit the people of the entire island economically, politically and culturally. We will therefore work towards achieving this in a spirit of mutual respect of all peoples who share this island and based on a foundation of Social Democratic principles.
Aontú (The party’s website outlines the following policy): Aontú seeks the independence of the Irish people north and south, east and west. We believe in self-determination; that decisions made as close to the people that they affect, are better decisions. Irish people can influence those decisions and they can hold the decision makers to account. When decisions are made in London, Brussels and Berlin they are not made in Ireland’s interest.
Irish Freedom Party: Yes we aspire to a democratic United Ireland. We are an all-Ireland party who wants an Ireland ruled by the Irish people not by London or Brussels.
The National Party: The National Party supports the unification of Ireland in one sovereign and independent republic.
My original post stated it was a good poll result for SF as they want a UI.
I didnt say it wasnt a win for other parties did I? If you think its a good poll for others, i.e FF/FG/Greens maybe discuss them in their own thread
