I like this, I am still not great at working out prices for value in many areas. This seems like a very good price to me, as it looks like most of the work needed is cosmetic, maybe some refits But not costly (I don't think). Adding to that, it is only €50k more and around 20 minutes drive from this. Although maybe it is still way above what it should be.
I'm not sure what I am looking at in pictures 24 and 25. I guess that is the self contained apartment.. Is it an open bedroom? What is the boxed off room with the windows?
I'd say there is more than cosmetic work there. It looks as though there has been a good bit of gimcrack modifications done - the photos don't help but there seems to be some very tacky work in places, and odd shaped rooms. Its also hard to see what happens at the back. It appears that some of the rear of the house overlooks next door's garden, and there seems to be part of the property, the extension at the back, that divides long ways on leading to some odd ownership of walls.
Complete rewire and replumb at a guess too. I can smell the mustiness looking at the pictures.
The BER exempt is what would worry me. The place could be an icebox in winter.
That's strange, the Daft ad for the Cloheen house shows the site as dividing the two out building/extensions lengthways down the middle, but Land Direct, which is up to date, shows the site includes the whole of those two buildings, which makes more sense. I wonder why they would get that so wrong?
Also it is more than 20 minutes from Clonmel; even google maps says it is 27 minutes and in fact it is a very rural road that if you got behind a tractor (been there, done that, many times) the trip could easily take you 45 minutes. Cahir is a nice little town and Mitchelstown is decent for groceries but otherwise you have to go to Clonmel.
Its a very nice area and if you were prepared to sink another 150k into it you could have a very nice b&b property, or a home, but it does not make any sense at all to compare it to the Clonmel house in terms of market desirability.
I was also amused to read 'One of the sheds has a staircase that leads to the self-contained Granny flat', because a flight of steps out of a shed is what you really need in a granny flat!
What am I missing? 700,000 for this house?
https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/detached-house-na-fabhil-glenwood-athlone-co-westmeath/3936704
Its a nice enough house - justs needs a bit of cosmetic work but nothing major. Not a chance of them getting €700K for it though - its not worth that. Someone is chancing their arm.
You'd have to live in Athlone
Sublime example of the McMansion
Full height window at the front, a kitchen the colour of fake tan, spotlights in the bedrooms, chandeliers in the small living room and an imitation grand staircase. Bonus points for the location too - middle of nowhere site beside the M6. A piece of celtic tiger history
I don't understand why they have a cheap laminate floor in one of the bedrooms. For the size of the house some of the rooms are quite small.
It's one McMansion where they manage to paint the exterior and landscape the garden though!
Another one in Athlone, little bit closer to Athlone but not as well presented, similar size, same amount of redecoration, 800k. I reckon they would get near enough the 700 for the other one. I don't like the decor but not a big deal to change it, once the furniture is gone a coat of paint all through would make a lot of difference. I would not go for it myself (if I had 700k and wanted to live in Athlone) but I reckon its more saleable.
Unfortunately the decoration can't be simply covered with paint. The ceiling has patterned plaster work and cheap pine all over the place. Can't see anybody who would want to buy either as they are actually really cheaply done on the interiors. Very tasteless
That looks older with the artex ceilings yet still has a B3 BER, usually found in houses built between 2000-2010ish.
They seem to like hall carpet in Athlone for some reason.
Yes, sorry, my reply was not very clear. The 700k one is the one I was referring to as being improved by a coat of paint. I agree the artex ceilings on the other one would be a nightmare of replastering. Even with a coat of paint it (the 700k) would not be to my taste, but if you want all that faux stone/tower effect frontage etc you would probably be happy enough with the interior.
I have to laugh at this listing:
Selling points include:
70k for this? You'd be mad.
And of course, they are delighted to bring it to market. They say it ideal for a handy person but also say it is derelict and need total refurbishment.
You would be paying for a site not a house. No guarantee that you could even knock the house and build a house further back.
What would be stopping you from knocking it down other than a preservation order (which would be mentioned? After that you can build 40sqm extension without planning. What am I missing?
The hedgerow pictures really sell it. 😂
Planning permission Ray - thats what would stop you.
In the county I live in you would be told most of the time to renovate and extend the existing house rather than knocking it. They wont give permission for a completely new house further back on a site. The existing house is too near the road for my liking.
Not sure what the demand for sites is like in Borris-in-Ossory but where I live (rural, 3km from small town) that's about the going rate for a 1.2 acre site without a derelict house on it for €70k. A site with a derelict house would probably make a bit more.
But yeah, the auctioneer is right, you'd want to be very handy to renovate that house. 😀
The point is you don't need planning to rebuild on the existing foundation and can build a large extension. I am not aware of which counties don't allow you to build 40sqm extension without planning. What county are you talking about? If you are doing something more radical you will need planning permission. If their is an existing property it is a lot easier to do and while they tend to have elements of retaining a building I have never heard it as being overly strict.
I know you dont need permission for a small extension however not many would be interested in doing that as the house is so close to the road - there would be no privacy.. Renovation is also sometimes more expensive than building from scratch. The large site at the back is what makes this property attractive - not the house.
Im in Meath. Sites like this with derelict properties are snapped up quick and often sell for big money to people who dont meet local needs criteria for planning. I know several people who have bought sites similar to this this with derelict houses in the hope of getting permission for a completely new house. Planners very often want them to keep the small house which often isnt a viable option in terms of cost and size.
40sqm isn't a small extension. It is difficult to get planning for a completely new house but that is a totally different proposition. If you try blunt force planning you will fail in most places. You need to be smart about it. Buy rebuild extend then apply for planning after that and it is possible even before building is finished
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Remember those shower hose attachments that went on the hot and cold taps? One second you scald yerself then you’re frozen ? Is that what this shower curtain/art installation in hiding?
3-bed house, BER of B1, just over 1hr to Dublin Airport or Belfast, close to Newry and Dundalk for amenities, whats the catch?
The property is occupied under terms unknown. *
Please note viewings will not be permitted
They sold one next door for nearly 3 times the price in March.
Run. Run far away from that.
3m price tag is a shocking price for that.
In fairness, it is some site. Plonk a bar on top of that and you're laughing.
"Napoleons"
Probably only busy for 10 days a year though. And the area is full of scumbags.
