Permeability between where though? As far as I can see the proposed new bridge locations would only serve people accessing the nuns island car park. There are no other destinations there that would not be better served by O'Briens bridge or the Salmon Weir bridge.
The old railway bridge one has been on the cards for a long time and will be part of the Connemara Greenway infrastructure.
The others are about safe, accessible infrastructure at multiple points to increase permeability to increase the attractiveness and uptake of walking.
Yes it seems bizarre, nobody is asking for these additional bridges (beyond the one under construction) and the council seem mad keen to add them. Yet thousands are asking for safe segregated cycle lanes and absolutely nothing coming through.
Another new pedestrian bridge?
I'm all for bridges, but what is the rationale here?
The rationale for the bridge under construction now is that the Salmon Weir bridge is very narrow.
Is this proposed bridge linked to the redevelopment of the NUI Galway buildings on Nun's island?
Any talk about using the old railway bridge bases for a new bridge?
Just to clarify that it's Colette and not Catherine Connolly there.
Anti-social behavior is not a legitimate reason to deny provision of infrastructure otherwise there wouldn't be a road or path built in the country
Insane that this needs to be pointed out, but there we are
Residents in Bowling Green know quite a bit about the effects of pedestrian walkways.
More details have emerged on the next proposed pedestrian bridge over the Corrib. Its to connect Goal Rd and Newtownsmyth so I'm guessing its going to be somewhere roughly in the region of one of the 2 blue lines below, other new bridge is indicated in green (approx location)
Of course, it wouldn't be a GCC meeting without a gem from a councilor, this time, Collette Connolly (not Catherine - thanks ben)
During a Council meeting, Councillor Colette Connolly (Ind) said she had concerns that another pedestrian bridge could facilitate anti-social behaviour.
Residents in the vicinity of the planned bridge and at Nuns Island had already complained about anti-social behaviour, she said. She queried why it was included.
Yep, you’d have to think that P&R without Bus Lanes for a very high percentage of its route would be a waste of time. We’ve already proved that with the airport one. Repeating the exact same pattern isn’t going to lead to a different outcome.
The city centre is not necessarily the problem which is to be solved by a p&r in Galway - which is part of what makes things challenging.
If we try to include sticks, they are likely to have a lot of unintended consequences, and to generate negative publicity which could get the whole idea canned.
Well the avoidance of traffic, faster and more consistent journey time and no issues with parking would be the draw , I'd hope at least.
Not that I disagree with your proposed measures, they absolutely should be done regardless. My point was to make them separate to the P&R otherwise you get nonsense like "well my route doesn't have a P&R so I'm being victimised so you can't add those other measures in until every single possible route has a P&R" or similar such nonsense. You often see the same for Dublin where car owners are demanding PT before they'll give up the car, in Dublin, with over 130 bus routes/Dart/Luas/Commuter rail etc
But back to the P&R, a lot of the success will really depend on how far a bus will have to go to get onto bus lanes. As was seen previously, the one they set up at the airport died within weeks because it made no sense to use it as the bus got stuck in the same traffic so it was faster to not use the P&R.
Honestly I hope they do it right as it could be the catalyst for a lot of other positive changes
P and R doesn't really work that way when there's nothing stopping you completing your journey by car.
I have no problem with the stick approach, but I think this needs to be all carrot, at least at the start, to see how much natural demand there is and how efficient the service is.
I would add to above that, perhaps most crucially, it has to be coupled with some measure to deter cars from driving past it towards the city centre. That could be many things, a toll or congestion charge, a lengthy diversion with more road space given to sustainable modes, a punitive parking charge or simply ban through movements for cars in the city centre.
P&R often fails because if you are already in your car, there is little natural incentive to get out of it and use a park and ride. It has to be part of more far reaching measures.
News on P&R's for the city coming at the Sept or Oct council meeting
I really hope they come up with some solid plans and not just half measures that will be doomed to fail.
At a bare minimum IMHO this is what they should be coming up with though the last point might be out of scope
No one is saying that ALL HGV deliveries can be done by cargo bike. But there are better ways than the current method. I noticed this update in another related discussion from a locked account this evening.
There are more than pubs getting deliveries in town. It simply wouldn't work for large shops etc.
In previous employment we had a truck arriving at 0730 Tuesday mornings, it would serve 4 stores with deliveries. Our store would have taken at least 40 totes (black plastic cartons) alone, along with 'sets' folded merchandise. That was just our store, the other 3 would have that much between them. There's no way that would have worked by someone carting it in on a bike.
Are delivery drivers 'serfs' too or is that just cyclists. Either way, it would take one person to propel it, full or empty. eBikes are great for providing that extra oomph when you need it.
Couldn't tell you the speed, but with the current traffic chaos in Galway, it's probably going to be a similar speed to a truck for much of the journey.
Would it work from an overall supply-chain POV? It depends - maybe for some of the smaller breweries for a start anyway.
How many serfs would it take to propel that if the kegs were full? How long would it take to travel from say, a depot in Rocam to the city centre? What time would they have to start in order to do however-many trips in and out in a day?
jayzus... get real. these green folks need to wake up out of their dreamland or there won't be any jobs at all as it would be too expensive to buy a simple pint.
1 truck with driver can deliver to multiple places. But some green folk with a hairbrained idea thinks it makes sense for a truck to stop at a point lets say 4 miles away from the intended delivery locations to break down their load where then 3-5 (or more) people would take their cargo bikes or vans to the destination...... I'm not saying it can't be done but the costs of all that would be enormous for any business to absorb.
How many loads would it take?
What weight of goods do you think needs to be carried into a city that has a very strong hospitality sector?
This is a picture from mid-October. Not a bank holiday, or race week, arts-fest, Paddy's, Christmas, etc. How many full kegs could each van or bicycle manage? How much extra time would it take just to receive a delivery that arrived in far smaller lots?
Five axle trucks are supposedly banned in central Dublin without getting special permission in advance but enforcement is apparently close to zero. Four axles can still be a huge vehicle for city centre streets in any case.
Michael Crowe cited increased costs to businesses as a result which he doesn't want to see imposed on them on top of the already excessive costs.
I know there are places around the world where HGV's are already banned or are planning to be banned as they use last-mile depots instead.
There was talk of this previously for Galway and it was one of the things that was going to be done to protect the new surfaces on Shop st so I'm not sure why this has been so roundly rejected
"In Galway, mobile cameras will be operating on the R446 at Ballinalsoe, where there have been two serious collisions according to Gardaí.
The other new speed camera location in Galway is on the R364 regional road to the north and south of Kilkerrin, where there have been two collisions lately."
Ballinrobe in the image which would make more sense, connecting to the railway station presumably.
Carraroe to Ballinasloe to Claremorris sounds ... interesting.
some new and expanded bus routes for the county
no more details yet
It allows them later on to vote against proposals "because they were never made aware of the exact details" even though they are made aware of the details once they have been determined.
It's exactly what they did in Salthill to great effect resulting in little to no young kids being able to cycle safely there.
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