Getting rid of ATM's too. There's a protest planned. Really bad idea imo, cash won't go away despite the banksters drooling desire for such to happen.
I see where you're coming from, it's their own downfall of they loose good customers and make it all inclusive for a certain credit transaction.
I've noticed lot of the old hardware shop's that were around for decades and they had a good relationship with customers they're still standing. They knew about the customer being the most important person in the shop. and because they are family run as well as a few trustworthy locals working there too they built up a good customer trader relationship.
I prefer the old school dusty quirky shop's to the new clinical experience.
Mind you I do stop into woodies now and again lol
...im not so sure it was incompetence there, as it was clearly largely intentional in what occurred....
Excellent point, the citizens kept them in existence via bail outs when they made a balls of running themselves through absolutely catastrophic levels of incompetence and our thanks….? Cashless banks !?
I’ve no problem seeing businesses completely fall into the gutter when they have such a lack of empathy, understanding and instead exude such contempt for customers of theirs.
its truly time for the implementation of public banking systems, we cant keep allowing vested interests run such a critical social need....
I think we haven't decided how we want to proceed as a nation and have said **** it and let the market and hubris decide.
Cash is not going away anytime soon, regardless of anyones individual view.
Here's the EUs take on the 'role of cash' in society.
An Post have been busy closing post offices and shunting stand alone sub POs into small supermarkets etc.
If they were actually run competently, they could do a decent job of it. But too many management staff in An Post feeding off the tits of the taxpayer and who believe in doing as little as possible in as long a time as possible.
I hear you, if you get a customer paying by card it's in your business account, and if their card is declined no sale. And you're not out of pocket
Fair enough, you're running a business and it's your lively hood. And you're entitled to run it your way.
I get what you're saying
I fully expect new cash handling fees to appear for aib customers in the coming months.
CHunt
Says it all really.
I think AIB and others probably learned something
We as a society are moving out from under the pandemic. Forcing a change now because people started to do things a little differently that was not obviously to anyone's immediate benefit was amazingly tone deaf. Plus the "tough luck" messaging pathetic
Though I have issues with most of your post, the part about the idiotic changes to the drink driving laws is ridiculous. What was it for? To save lives!! Maybe go spout that **** to someone who has lost a family member due to to drink driving saying you prefer an extra 2 pint more than more people dying on the road.
If you decided to live out in the middle of nowhere and expect everything around you because you have chosen to stay there, then its on you! Why should someone else's taxes pay for you to have the same services in a town or city?
AIB are cowards for backing out. The conspiracy crap going on in this thread about internet going down, power cuts etc. The internet has never gone down around the world. Power has gone down but restored quickly. People under 60 are unlikely to use ATMs every day or every week even.
The tide was sped up with Covid and people learned to go cashless. If your phone is stolen there all but zero chance of breaking into your bank account. All frauds are done predominantly via social engineering. MFA (google it if you don't know what it is) is everywhere for security. If you lose your phone you can connect with revolut or N26 in other ways and on your laptop.
As for the privacy of what you spend. The is again ridiculous, you are on boards where you have accepted at minimum Strictly Necessary Cookies. If you use any social network they are way more intrusive and know more about you than you do. They can learn more from your Dunnes card spending habits than bank account. There was a famous case years ago from Walmart who were able to tell if you were pregnant before you were based on the change in your spending habits. See https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
I would guess a number of people here are complaining because they will lose out on nixers. Plenty of people doing them using well known financial apps as a separate bank account.
I can safely say "cash" customers are the absolute worst payers and the most difficult customers. The sooner these guys have to work with modern, tracked payment methods like everyone else, the better
Whatever about the banks internally losing the cash services, to remove the ATM machines too was just mind boggling to me.... I think this is where they ultimately got the peoples backs up.
"Leftist media" in Ireland 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The threat and the potential bad publicly seem to have worked for now at least.
Cashless will probably happen (already has in some places) but I doubt it will be till the vast majority of the population are from computer literate generations.
no one gives a damn about what the leftist media prints. Very few even read them these days.
I live in Canada and rarely use cash anymore. I use my credit card, and for most transactions; paypass, or contactless payment. I never use debit cards. Credit cards make points, and debit are only that, and less safe all around.
Sure, we do keep cash in the house for some expenses, but few and far between.
I still see that as highly unlikely. People are inherently lazy and will bitch and moan before moving bank, especially the older generation
About 75 minutes it seems.
I assume a load of people about to move bank made them cop on a bit.
That all makes sense to me however i have a feeling Colin Hunt won't like aib to get a kicking in the Sunday papers.
Im reply to jim
Only if the government is happy to get an EU exception and willing to pump more tax payers money into the banks. The world is moving on and cash is not part of it. Give it six months and most people will have converted in any case.
Jacking up charges on anything, Which will be much easier on cashless when there are no alternatives.
Seems its not going to happen anyway... AIB are not going ahead making the branches cashless,
Dirty money wins for now but the days of cash are numbered.
Move to cashless has been cancelled.
I suspect some new cash charges will be brought in
You'll own nothing and be happy.
You won't even be able to take your money out of a bank they'll own it all.
They could already just jack up the rates on ATM use.
Or jack up what they charge companies to process cash.
Its abundantly clear why AIB and every other bank is doing this. There is no money in cash services. It's a cost, not a profit opportunity. Hardly anyone used cash these days.
Funnily enough, moving cash services to the post office, which in turn might make them profitable (or at least less of a loss) could save them from closure.
In short though, if people want to retain any service, they need to use it.
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